The babyjesuschristsuperstar on Board: filling the moral void of Clinton’s legacy

[SlaveNoMore]

Gattigap
Huh. I wonder what that would be like.

Maybe he finally got the pen I mailed them.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
And no way would 20% of Americans have "no problem" nuking the entire middle east. There's no evidence to suggest this, unless you're using Less as the Nielsen rating for that view.

20%? Try 40%. The whole damned lot of them over there are a huge drain on the world economy.

Could you imagine how different things would be if we had bombs as strong as nukes, but delivering none of the long term fallout?

[Diane_Keaton]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
20%? Try 40%.

Sorry, but no. 50% of Americans do not even agree that it's okay to restrict at least "some" civil liberties of Muslim Americans. Almost 1/2 of Americans say their liberties shouldn't be restricted "in any way." Less than 30% believe Muslim civic organizations should be monitored for their activities and fund-raising.

Given the above, I have a hard time imagining 40% of Americans would love to commit genocide against Muslims.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Sorry, but no. 50% of Americans do not even agree that it's okay to restrict at least "some" civil liberties of Muslim Americans. Almost 1/2 of Americans say their liberties shouldn't be restricted "in any way." Less than 30% believe Muslim civic organizations should be monitored for their activities and fund-raising.

Given the above, I have a hard time imagining 40% of Americans would love to commit genocide against Muslims.

If we let the ones who are already in Europe live, it's not really quite genocide. I mean, at a minimum, for genocide we'd have to round up everyone here and in Europe and send them back before nuking. Or bombing into oblivion. It's more like when a castle didn't give in to a siege -- when the besiegers finally got in, frequently they'd kill everyone inside, to set an example. But they weren't obliterating e.g. the entire families of all the people in there, just everyone at the location in question. It's a geographic thing, not a racial/familial thing.

How many planes do we have capable of dropping really big bombs? I would think enough to pretty much obliterate most of the population centers within a couple days, which would leave minimal time for escape.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
If we let the ones who are already in Europe live, it's not really quite genocide. I mean, at a minimum, for genocide we'd have to round up everyone here and in Europe and send them back before nuking. Or bombing into oblivion. It's more like when a castle didn't give in to a siege -- when the besiegers finally got in, frequently they'd kill everyone inside, to set an example. But they weren't obliterating e.g. the entire families of all the people in there, just everyone at the location in question. It's a geographic thing, not a racial/familial thing.

How many planes do we have capable of dropping really big bombs? I would think enough to pretty much obliterate most of the population centers within a couple days, which would leave minimal time for escape.

ummm..... I'm afraid i have to disagree with your plans here. I eat hummus and shwarma at least a couple of times a week. i don't want some white bread american version.

[Diane_Keaton]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
If we let the ones who are already in Europe live, it's not really quite genocide. I mean, at a minimum, for genocide we'd have to round up everyone here and in Europe and send them back before nuking.

Um...the intent to kill, in whole or in part, a national or religious group is genocide as per Geneva Convention. But thanks for playing.

Originally posted by ltl/fb
It's more like when a castle didn't give in to a siege -- when the besiegers finally got in, frequently they'd kill everyone inside, to set an example. But they weren't obliterating e.g. the entire families of all the people in there, just everyone at the location in question. It's a geographic thing, not a racial/familial thing.

Right. Sure, it's um, like that castle thing.

How many planes do we have capable of dropping really big bombs? I would think enough to pretty much obliterate most of the population centers within a couple days, which would leave minimal time for escape.

Genocidal fuck.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
ummm..... I'm afraid i have to disagree with your plans here. I eat hummus and shwarma at least a couple of times a week. i don't want some white bread american version.

The people who make that for you live here, so they won't die.

There might be a period of mourning for any family members, but maybe you could go on vacation that week or something.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Um...the intent to kill, in whole or in part, a national or religious group is genocide as per Geneva Convention. But thanks for playing.

They are terrorists or enemy combatants or whatever. The Geneva Convention doesn't apply. Haven't you been paying attention to anything? In any event, we only are getting the ones actually resident in the nation. Expats, like those who make Hank's food, are safe.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
The people who make that for you live here, so they won't die.

There might be a period of mourning for any family members, but maybe you could go on vacation that week or something.

Maybe the food will even get better!!!!? I bet without that whole war thing we'd not have so many Pho kitchens!!!!

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield


Could you imagine how different things would be if we had bombs as strong as nukes, but delivering none of the long term fallout?

This sounds like an argument for neutron bombs. I can't really remember the science, though. There must be some reason that we invest so heavily in nukes and not neutrons -- other than our base enjoyment of blowing the shit out of everything.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
They are terrorists or enemy combatants or whatever. The Geneva Convention doesn't apply. Haven't you been paying attention to anything? In any event, we only are getting the ones actually resident in the nation. Expats, like those who make Hank's food, are safe.

2.

( killing terrorists in a car in a foreign country with a predator launched missile) + (ok to wiretap if a minimum % chance terrorists might be on the line) = (we can bomb a whole country is we can show a certain % are terrorists)

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
If we let the ones who are already in Europe live, it's not really quite genocide. I mean, at a minimum, for genocide we'd have to round up everyone here and in Europe and send them back before nuking.

Right. And Hitler didn't attempt or commit genocide because he didn't round up the Jews in the US.

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Right. And Hitler didn't attempt or commit genocide because he didn't round up the Jews in the US.

I've always heard it referred to as a holocaust. Is a holocaust a lesser included offense to genocide?

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Right. And Hitler didn't attempt or commit genocide because he didn't round up the Jews in the US.

Pfft. It's not the same thing. He rounded them up in his country AND outside of his country. We are clearly not rounding them up in our country -- we aren't even putting them in camps like with the Japanese in WWII -- we are just getting rid of the bulk of populations in entire countries. I mean, shit, I think there will be some US casualties. Collateral damage.

Hank, I thought pho was Vietnamese?

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Pfft. It's not the same thing. He rounded them up in his country AND outside of his country. We are clearly not rounding them up in our country -- we aren't even putting them in camps like with the Japanese in WWII -- we are just getting rid of the bulk of populations in entire countries. I mean, shit, I think there will be some US casualties. Collateral damage.

Hank, I thought pho was Vietnamese?

Right. And the Japanese only slaughtered or made slaves of Koreans outside of Japan. It wasn't genocide, it was a PARTY!