All Hank, all the time.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
How are those launched? Are they ICBMs or do they go on some kind of airplane?

It's kind of fun. What you do is toss a few traditional shells to make sure you have properly triangulated a target just beyond the place you want to have a little nuclear winter. Then you have to do a quick time-and-triangulate so you can set your shell to blow a couple seconds before it lands. If you're off, you fry our guys, so you try not to be off. At least, that's how we did it back in the day.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
So we (and our pals in the UK) should have let Hitler have Europe? And Japan the pacific. And we would all be more properous in the long run.

Except the Jews, they would be extinct.

not extinct. the Jews in America, the ones who forced us into WWII, they would still be alive.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
hmmmm. understanding poetry requires a poetic soul. storm=war.

no one wants to be in a storm, but Israel is in a storm. see?

you probably didn't get the Guernica posts right?

I think I saw enough of them, thanks.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
War doesn't have to be a bad thing Ty. Remember, not everything is grey, there is right and wrong and war in the name of right is a positive.

Sounds like you need to see more of the Guernica posts.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
The Soviets stacked the deck.

But Syria and Iran stacked the deck against Lebanon.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I will continue to scoff at this notion. Leave aside that the US military is already overextended. Leave aside that our current nation-building efforts are not going so well.

Do you think Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc. would not be as happy to kill American soldiers as they are to kill Israelis? And do you think that American soldiers will not kill as many civilians in retaliation?

OTOH, for awhile there we seemed to be uniting the Iraqi Shiites and Sunnis in their hatred for us. Maybe forcing ourselves into Israel would do the same thing?

I think that they might be as willing to kill American soldiers, but with an occupation force in their neighborhoods, they won't be as able. Furthermore, with troops in the Gaza and Lebanon and Haifa, etc. full-time, there will be more ability to distinguish between enemy and civilian. What's more, when you do a door-to-door sweep of a building looking for terrorists, you are bound to kill fewer civilians than when you just drop a bomb and level the fucker and everybody inside it.

And I acknowledge that the military is over-extended. I didn't say I was proposing an acceptable solution. I just think it is the only solution.

If you want my prognosis, I believe that the Middle East was the cradle of modern civilization and it will ultimately be the locus of the cancer that destroys it. Sooner or later, there will be a third world war, it will go nuclear, and it will destroy us all.

Namaste.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by sgtclub
It's not our problem. American lives should not die to inforce this peace.

What peace? And if it's not our problem, why are we spending so much trying to maintain some fragile semblance of stability in the region?

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Exactly my point.

And at that moment in history, when Israel no longer exists other than at the bottom of the Mediterranean with Atlantis, will the American left, the UN and the Euros be willing to stand up and apologise to history for their naive pacificism and myopic optimism and the role such dunderheadedness played in allowing the second Holocaust to occur?

I'm guessing no. Instead they willl try to blame it on then President Jeb Bush's failure to support the UN in its plan to relocate Israel to the mojave desert.

It's funny you should say that. The Jewish homeland is where it is at least in part because the conservatives of the US and Britain didn't want "them" coming to their own backyards.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Not sure I agree. Once Israel has sufficiently weakened Hezbollah in Lebanon and in the process scared Assad to the point of daily soiling of his diapers, it will be much much easier to move on Iran and take out its nuclear capabilities.

War doesn't have to be a bad thing Ty. Remember, not everything is grey, there is right and wrong and war in the name of right is a positive.

Is it positive enough to overcome the clear wrong of killing innocents? Remember Elian before you answer, oh master of the black and white unless it's inconvenient.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy



It's kind of fun. What you do is toss a few traditional shells to make sure you have properly triangulated a target just beyond the place you want to have a little nuclear winter. Then you have to do a quick time-and-triangulate so you can set your shell to blow a couple seconds before it lands. If you're off, you fry our guys, so you try not to be off. At least, that's how we did it back in the day.

We were using tactical nukes back in the day? Huh.

What do they do now, grandpa?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
We were using tactical nukes back in the day? Huh.

What do they do now, grandpa?

Got me. You know those crazy kids. I'll bet they deliver them by light saber or something.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by taxwonk
What peace? And if it's not our problem, why are we spending so much trying to maintain some fragile semblance of stability in the region?

The proposed peace between Israel and Hez/Leb that I understand you propose would be enforced by US soldiers.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by taxwonk
But Syria and Iran stacked the deck against Lebanon.

More comrades in arms.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Sounds like you need to see more of the Guernica posts.

What translator are you using?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by taxwonk
\ Sooner or later, there will be a third world war, it will go nuclear, and it will destroy us all.

Namaste.

Thank god for the 2nd Amendment. When the Planet of the Apes comes, I am ready for those mutant fucks.