All Hank, all the time.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
What can I say? I've decided to try to learn from Penske.

As I think I said above more than once, I agree that the guy didn't state his views very well. But in light of the many other times that he has condemned Hezbollah, it's obvious that most of the attempts to smear him are just that. In your case, perhaps not.



I read far enough into the article to see that Hanson, like Rush, was smearing Dingell by making him out to be a friend of Hezbollah. Sorry -- that's as far as I got.

You're nuts. Hanson's nothing like Rush. I hate them both.

Mmmbop...

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Let's keep bareback hoggin' and cream pies on the FB. Thank you.

We'd all be huge fucking liars if we said we always used condoms. If she was on the pill and seemed normal, hey... I just let the bourbon make my decisions.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
There are hypochondriacs everywhere. I thank god that my grandmother is in an HMO or else she'd be personally driving up Medicare to the tune of several million to get all the things that she thinks are wrong with her fixed. It escapes her notice that her parents both lived well into their ninties and that she's as healthy as a horse.

There is despite your assertions to the contrary, an increased incidence of lung cancer and other illnesses associated with exposure to second hand smoke. It is neither irresponsible nor an over-reaction for public health officials or other public officials to try to minimize the risk of exposure in areas that they control, citing health reasons. Same goes for ozone. Most of the time the warnings are issued as such: sitting unprotected in the sun for too long can lead to an increased risk for cancer, wrinkles, melasma (my particular sun-related curse), etc.

If you want to really get into an interesting public health discussion, start thinking about the DDT ban's contribution to the increased incidence of malaria in countries that can ill afford to have their populations and health care systems strained.

Can you spell out that increase in lung cancer in solid numbers, say, how many more times out of 100,000 you're likely to get lung cancer than a person not exposed to 2d hand smoke? "Increased" is the sort of word that begs greater explanation.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Don't have much time for epidemiological information these days. But...I'd be totally fine if my pack of Benson & Hedges Ultra Lights had a cute little "YMMV" under the surgeon general warning box. I'm totally fine with that.

B&H. You're a gay man?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Now, now, it's not like YOU knew precisely what Dingell's pre-fuck up comments were about Hezbollah.

Before I read your post, I knew he had been smeared by conservatives. I will concede that I didn't know chapter and verse of what he cited to Rush in that letter, but I had that general sense and would have been astonished had it been otherwise. It's not like the Democratic party is lining up to sell out Israel.

Well, you didn't get very far then, since the Dingell comment was basically the first sentence.

Yes, that's what I was trying to say.

I, on the other hand, ignored the pithy quote and went to the text of what the guy said. In fairness, I did that because the person who sent me the link was talking about how folks feel about the continued existence of Israel. So now everyone can go have a smoke and catch some sleep.

Based on what he said about Dingell, I think Victor Davis Hanson is a hack, and so I don't bother. Since he was wrong about Dingell's views about the continued existence of Israel, I don't give much credence to what he might say there about anyone else.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
You're nuts. Hanson's nothing like Rush. I hate them both.

Mmmbop...

You, like Rush, breathe through your mouth and nose. However, you may be nothing like Rush.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
You, like Rush, breathe through your mouth and nose. However, you may be nothing like Rush.

FTR, I oppose hate for hate's sake or solely out prejudice, but frankly I am too busy for hate...too busy reaching out to my fellow communitarians and building bridges of alliance to defeat the enemies.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

OK, Diane. I read the Hanson article, and I don't the appeal. I don't watch CNN or FOX, so I can't speak to the television news coverage or what it's saying. But to the extent that he's impugning the motives of the Bush Administration in seeking a cease-fire in the war, I think he has no idea what he's talking about. They may be obtuse, but they're not afraid.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Did anyone else get Julia Sweeney? Is she a leading lite of atheisticism?

Ambiguous Pat seemed like an atheist...

There is an two hours of my life I will never get back. I got Julia Sweeney because I have heard that name before but I am not sure where. Is she the old lady that disappeared and had the scandal surrounding her?

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Can you spell out that increase in lung cancer in solid numbers, say, how many more times out of 100,000 you're likely to get lung cancer than a person not exposed to 2d hand smoke? "Increased" is the sort of word that begs greater explanation.

No. You are fully capable of clicking the surgeon general report and reading it for yourself. (hint: go to chapter seven http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/librar...t/chapter7.pdf) And the way that the studies are usually weighed, it's in terms of your increased risk compared to the control population. So a non-smoker in Japan who lives with a smoker has a 1.9 increased chance of getting lung cancer than she would have had she not lived with the smoker, that risk is readjusted to 1.3 when other factors (such as diet) are taken into account.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
so did the Nazis...........and the Clintons for that matter

Actually, Hitler did very well in the 1932 elections but he never won a majority. BTW: the Bolsheviks never won an election in Russia. In fact I can't think of a time when the the communist party (a real communist party, not like the communists in Italy who support Nato and free markets) has ever won an election.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
I read far enough into the article to see that Hanson, like Rush, was smearing Dingell by making him out to be a friend of Hezbollah. Sorry -- that's as far as I got.

Hanson suggested that Dingell put Hezbollah and Israel on equal footing.

And in Dingell's comments, Dingell did just that.

Period. End of story.

PS - I cannot speak for Rush, b/c I do not have radio reception in my office, nor do I want it.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Hanson suggested that Dingell put Hezbollah and Israel on equal footing.

And in Dingell's comments, Dingell did just that.

Period. End of story.

You are reading the wingnut translation in which he condemns Israel for its use of violence.

BTW, when you smear someone by taking something out of context, that involves repeating something that they said without also repeating another thing that puts the first thing in a different light. Just so we're clear on that.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
You are reading the wingnut translation in which he condemns Israel for its use of violence.

I'm gonna hit you the next time I see you. Just warnin' ya.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I'm gonna hit you the next time I see you. Just warnin' ya.

Is this a good time for me to predict that the Sox take four out of five this weekend?

(In my dreams.)