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Old 08-30-2006, 12:25 PM   #4861
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Note to Taxwonk

Isn't anyone going to back up Taxwonk's assertions?

BTW: An example of a non-correlative relationship between statistics is: Last year students’ scores on math tests in Minnesota increased. Last year there were more hurricanes in the Caribbean. The higher test scores are leading to more hurricanes or visa versa.
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:28 PM   #4862
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He didn't. He tried to kill him, which is more than Bush tried at Tora Bora.
Clinton lobs some cruise missile at Afghanistan and Bush invades the country, but you think Clinton tried harder to get Osama? Yeah right.
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:32 PM   #4863
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See, e.g., http://mediamatters.org/items/200606260009 for a different assesment.
Did Patriot missile's take down Scuds during Guld War One, or was that all just a well planned hoax? If they did doesn't that show that upper atmoshphere missiles can be shot down, and if so, don't you think we can improve upon that technology?
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:32 PM   #4864
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Clinton lobs some cruise missile at Afghanistan and Bush invades the country, but you think Clinton tried harder to get Osama? Yeah right.
Read a book. You might learn something.

Clinton tried harder to get OBL than you seem to think, and Bush didn't try hard enough at Tora Bora.
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:33 PM   #4865
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Read a book. You might learn something.

Clinton tried harder to get OBL than you seem to think, and Bush didn't try hard enough at Tora Bora.
I read that. Spanky, you would like it.
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:34 PM   #4866
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Did Patriot missile's take down Scuds during Guld War One?
Unclear.
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:34 PM   #4867
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Did Patriot missile's take down Scuds during Guld War One, or was that all just a well planned hoax? If they did doesn't that show that upper atmoshphere missiles can be shot down, and if so, don't you think we can improve upon that technology?
Actually, I believe that was a hoax. I learned in The World Is Flat that there is a thing called Google. Check it out.
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:47 PM   #4868
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Did Patriot missile's take down Scuds during Guld War One, or was that all just a well planned hoax? If they did doesn't that show that upper atmoshphere missiles can be shot down, and if so, don't you think we can improve upon that technology?
1. True
2. True, but much, much harder if for no other reason than the difficulty of maintaining accuracy over the much greater distances iinvolved.
3. Of course the technology can be improved. I don't doubt that, with sufficient resources, a system can be developed to shoot down a single (maybe even a handful of) ballistic missles. Although it isn't your principle concern now, I do doubt the feasibility of the Reagan-era star wars program--i.e. a missile "shield" capable of shooting down hundreds or thousands of ballisitc missiles launched nearly simultaneously.

I only noted the article in relation to the question of why Rumsfeld and Cheney aren't making hay about it--suggesting that perhaps the results were not as overwhelming positive as "successful 7 out of 8" would imply.
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:56 PM   #4869
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I read that. Spanky, you would like it.
Hell, you can borrow it from me if you want.
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Old 08-30-2006, 01:32 PM   #4870
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Read a book. You might learn something.
Didn't someone (Hank or Penske) already mention that you are always trying to get us to read tripe. And didn't your mom tell you you can't trust everything you read. Try to be a little more discerning about what allegations you accept as true and then you posts might be a little more intelligent.
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Old 08-30-2006, 01:35 PM   #4871
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Using that analysis, you would have concluded that our procedures were perfect as of September 10, 2001.
Are you implying that there were just as many people trying to hijack our planes before September 11 as there are today? You don't think September 11 embolded would be terrorists around the world to get in the game?
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Old 08-30-2006, 01:36 PM   #4872
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Didn't someone (Hank or Penske) already mention that you are always trying to get us to read tripe. And didn't your mom tell you you can't trust everything you read. Try to be a little more discerning about what allegations you accept as true and then you posts might be a little more intelligent.
That's a good tip. Thanks. Your little epistemological sidelines to the substantive conversations here never fail to offer useful advice.
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Old 08-30-2006, 01:38 PM   #4873
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Unclear.
Even if the allegations in this statement are true, it even admits that the rate was low but there will still some success. And the patriot missiles were developed in the 1970s. Maybe you haven't noticed but technology has advanced a little bit in the last thirty years. You don't think we can now improve upon the patriot missile to make it more accurate?
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Old 08-30-2006, 01:40 PM   #4874
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Actually, I believe that was a hoax. I learned in The World Is Flat that there is a thing called Google. Check it out.
Why would the Israeli's lie about this? And after these failures why did they buy so many more patriots? And if Star Wars is such a lost cause, why are the Israelis so involved in its planning and implementation?
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Old 08-30-2006, 01:41 PM   #4875
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Even if the allegations in this statement are true, it even admits that the rate was low but there will still some success. And the patriot missiles were developed in the 1970s. Maybe you haven't noticed but technology has advanced a little bit in the last thirty years. You don't think we can now improve upon the patriot missile to make it more accurate?
I think we can. That doesn't mean I want to spend every last dime researching SDI. I thought you were a Fiscal Conservative. Don't you want to restrict expensive government programs that don't work?
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