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09-06-2006, 08:06 PM
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#631
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WacKtose Intolerant
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questions for Iran hawks
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
About 5 inches shorter?
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Chef?
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Since I'm a righteous man, I don't eat ham;
I wish more people was alive like me
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09-06-2006, 08:07 PM
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#632
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WacKtose Intolerant
Join Date: Mar 2003
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questions for Iran hawks
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Is this a veiled response about someone's daughter?
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Not anymore.
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Since I'm a righteous man, I don't eat ham;
I wish more people was alive like me
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09-06-2006, 08:15 PM
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#633
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For what it's worth
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: With Thumper
Posts: 6,793
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This guy is smart...
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
I think it would be good politics and policy. It is immoral to tax death. Death is between you and your creator. Period.
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Taxes are bad any way you cut it. Taxing income, in my mind, is worse than taxing death.
But in any event, when you tax you try and do the least damage to the economy that you can. If the choice is between taxing an estate (or death as you would say) or taxing income, I would choose the estate tax.
The death tax, I don't believe, discourages anyone from being more productive. And it also encourages people to give their inheritance to charity instead of underserving offspring (like me).
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09-06-2006, 08:20 PM
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#634
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Flyover land
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This guy is smart...
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Originally posted by Spanky
Taxes are bad any way you cut it. Taxing income, in my mind, is worse than taxing death.
But in any event, when you tax you try and do the least damage to the economy that you can. If the choice is between taxing an estate (or death as you would say) or taxing income, I would choose the estate tax.
The death tax, I don't believe, discourages anyone from being more productive. And it also encourages people to give their inheritance to charity instead of underserving offspring (like me).
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There is actually such a thing as a death tax, and it is different from an estate tax. The federal government imposes an estate tax. I believe some states have estate taxes, and others have death taxes.
Calling an estate tax a death tax is inaccurate. A lie, some might say. However, "death tax" sounds more like something that applies to everyone and thus is hated by the masses and unpopular.
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09-06-2006, 08:32 PM
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#635
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WacKtose Intolerant
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
There is actually such a thing as a death tax, and it is different from an estate tax. The federal government imposes an estate tax. I believe some states have estate taxes, and others have death taxes.
Calling an estate tax a death tax is inaccurate. A lie, some might say. However, "death tax" sounds more like something that applies to everyone and thus is hated by the masses and unpopular.
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In a lower case generic context I don't think it makes a difference. If it looks like a duck, and quacks, res ipsa etc etc et al..
If someone is misreferencing a statute that is different.
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Since I'm a righteous man, I don't eat ham;
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09-06-2006, 08:33 PM
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#636
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
There is actually such a thing as a death tax, and it is different from an estate tax. The federal government imposes an estate tax. I believe some states have estate taxes, and others have death taxes.
Calling an estate tax a death tax is inaccurate. A lie, some might say. However, "death tax" sounds more like something that applies to everyone and thus is hated by the masses and unpopular.
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Exactly. What was I saying earlier today about repeating a lie often enough?
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09-06-2006, 08:37 PM
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#637
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WacKtose Intolerant
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: PenskeWorld
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Quote:
Originally posted by Spanky
Taxes are bad any way you cut it. Taxing income, in my mind, is worse than taxing death.
But in any event, when you tax you try and do the least damage to the economy that you can. If the choice is between taxing an estate (or death as you would say) or taxing income, I would choose the estate tax.
The death tax, I don't believe, discourages anyone from being more productive. And it also encourages people to give their inheritance to charity instead of underserving offspring (like me).
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dissent, human nature being what it is, the death tax creates all sorts of misincentives in the system for people to shelter their wealth and create "tax free" transfers on or after death. The only beneficiaries are tax lawyers and accountants, both of which, as overall groups, are drags and leaches on productive society. Further, my simplistic understanding is that tax policy does not have a huge affect on charitable giving. It certainly wouldnt drive mine. To the extent that I have to pay lawyers and accountants to sheild my wealth from the oppressive bureacracies, that money comes out of the charitable orgs allocations, not my kids. I am no Buffett,. and wouldn't want to be.
If you want to create incentive, create some general incentives for investment and savings as opposed to immediate consumption.
Just say no to the death tax!
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Since I'm a righteous man, I don't eat ham;
I wish more people was alive like me
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09-06-2006, 08:38 PM
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#638
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WacKtose Intolerant
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Originally posted by taxwonk
Exactly. What was I saying earlier today about repeating a lie often enough?
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The lie speaks for itself.
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Since I'm a righteous man, I don't eat ham;
I wish more people was alive like me
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09-06-2006, 08:48 PM
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#639
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Corner Office
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Ty (read this-WINE REFERENCES)
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
So.......
Anyhoo.....
I am going to a cocktail party, iyw, tonight. Mostly liberal arts types, patrons of the arts, prfoessional board members, retired tech billionaires, but all very liberal. Gates may be there, I am sure he's invited. Typical upscale Seattle liberal faux-intellectually elitist salon type of event.
I am imagining, based on past history, there will be some typical CA boxed wine, like Harlan Estate, some Hietz Cellars Reserve Cab, maybe '97, maybe a couple of vintages of Screaming Eagle.
And more importantly, good stuff from the PacNW, Ken Wright Cellars Pinot, maybe some Patricia Greene, some Leonetti, Andrew Will Sorella. Delille?
Anyhoo, if politics comes up, how do I keep from putting my foot in my mouth and getting kicked out before I can maximise my wine consumption?!?!!?!?!
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when you say something controversial or hateful follow with Allah akbar.
Like: - I believe all the liberals in Washington state should be made into non-voting sub-citizens, allah akbar
You'll get your points across, but they'll be thinking you're a Jihadi just exercising your freedom of speech. They'll think denying you your wine would be culturally ignorant. If they seem to be catching on, turn to the East and kneel on a carpet for awhile.
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I will not suffer a fool- but I do seem to read a lot of their posts
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09-06-2006, 09:10 PM
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#640
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Serenity Now
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Survivor Island
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questions for Iran hawks
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Chef?
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You've met me, dickhead.
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09-06-2006, 09:26 PM
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#641
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WacKtose Intolerant
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: PenskeWorld
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Ty (read this-WINE REFERENCES)
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
when you say something controversial or hateful follow with Allah akbar.
Like:- I believe all the liberals in Washington stayed should be made into non-voting sub-citizens, allah akbar
You'll get your points across, but they'll be thinking you're a Jihadi just exercising your freedom of speech. They'll think denying you your wine would be culturally ignorant. If they seem to be catching on, turn to the East and kneel on a carpet for awhile.
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Well played, playa.
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Since I'm a righteous man, I don't eat ham;
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09-06-2006, 09:27 PM
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#642
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WacKtose Intolerant
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questions for Iran hawks
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Originally posted by sgtclub
You've met me, dickhead.
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I thought that was on the dl...I was trying not to make Fringey jealous.....more jealous.....damn, being kinder and more well behaviouralised is a tough gig.
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Since I'm a righteous man, I don't eat ham;
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09-06-2006, 09:46 PM
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#643
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
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questions for Iran hawks
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sgtclub
You've met me, dickhead.
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W.p., p.
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09-06-2006, 09:55 PM
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#644
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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Ty (read this-WINE REFERENCES)
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Well played, playa.
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I know you like me, dickhead. but I worry that the attempt at humor will make Ty even more pissed at me......  ..........WAIT! he won't be reading it:cheers: :band:
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09-06-2006, 10:15 PM
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#645
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,062
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Bush and torture.
Why won't he tell the truth?
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