Posting Towards Gomorrah

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
ummm, maybe this is an exhibition match, but I'm counting it. remember Ty and them admitted that torture did get good information? remember I went out of my way to get them all to admit that?

Hank Chinaski
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If you asked me my address under torture, I would give you the right answer. Or you could ask me my address without the torture and I would also give you the right answer.*


*No, you may not have my address.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter

*No, you may not have my address.

my second best friend on Myspace says there's no reason to try to set up a meeting with you anyway, you'll stand me up

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
my second best friend on Myspace says there's no reason to try to set up a meeting with you anyway, you'll stand me up

Anything I can do to further stand up comedy.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
If you asked me my address under torture, I would give you the right answer. Or you could ask me my address without the torture and I would also give you the right answer.*

One admin here said that once when he raped you, you started giving out the combination of your high school locker, and the names of the guys in your home room who sold pot. True?

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
ummm, maybe this is an exhibition match, but I'm counting it. remember Ty and them admitted that torture did get good information? remember I went out of my way to get them all to admit that?

Hank Chinaski
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That's not quite how I remember it. As I recall, Ty acknowledged that, while torture might get some good information, it would also result in sufficient bad information and false confessions that any good information would be hard to confirm on a timely basis.

But if it makes you feel better to think you "won," you go right ahead.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by taxwonk
That's not quite how I remember it. As I recall, Ty acknowledged that, while torture might get some good information, it would also result in sufficient bad information and false confessions that any good information would be hard to confirm on a timely basis.

But if it makes you feel better to think you "won," you go right ahead.

huh? if 5% of the leads we get are true- you go boys!

ready to talk?

lie

lie

Abu who lives on michigan ave. in Dearborn is a Jihadi and is plotting to blow up the Vernor's factory.

lie

lie

lie.

The above for the CIA torture guy? a day well spent protecting America.

I don't love America unconditionally like a parent. I want to change what's wrong- there are Jihadis threatening it.

[SlaveNoMore]

Shape Shifter
A return to the torture garden.

• One nasty morning Comrade Stalin discovered that his favorite pipe was missing. Naturally, he called in his henchman, Lavrenti Beria, and instructed him to find the pipe. A few hours later, Stalin found it in his desk and called off the search. "But, Comrade Stalin," stammered Beria, "five suspects have already confessed to stealing it."

Article on torture by a former Soviet dissident

So fucking what?

This is like Less' ridiculous retort to the Islamic response to the Pope's [hit the bullseye] remark about Muslim violence - oooh, the Christians were violent too some 300 hundred years ago. Let's talk about last week, shall we?

What the fuck does what Stalin did to his own people have to do with framing the argument?

The mere fact that we're even having an argument is the greatest defense of the American goverment one can have.

That this "Devil" of a "Imperialist Dictator" is bothering to work with the Congress on the topic - rather than just ignoring the ludicrous Hamdan opinion and the over-concerned voices of the Left (as parroted by McCain) should be QED.

[SlaveNoMore]

Shape Shifter
Spanky really does have his head up his ass?

Veteran of Cirque De Soleil.

Where do think he met those Serbian chicks anyway?

[SlaveNoMore]

Shape Shifter
Anything I can do to further stand up comedy.

In the land of the blind, even the one-eyed man is King.

[SlaveNoMore]

Hank Chinaski
One admin here said that once when he raped you, you started giving out the combination of your high school locker, and the names of the guys in your home room who sold pot. True?

That Ruysbreuck is one tough, fucking motherfucker. Damn!

[SlaveNoMore]

Two Fridays in a row.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
When you pull your head out of your ass, do you like the way it smells?


Or, as the evidence suggests, is that something you have yet to try?

:disbelief


:shock:


:cussing:


:box:

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
When you pull your head out of your ass, do you like the way it smells?

Or, as the evidence suggests, is that something you have yet to try?

You haven't been paying attention Sidd. Spanky's shit doesn't stink.

S_A_M

P.S. I have to say that Slave's QED statement really left me baffled. Are you really saying that the mere fact that we are permitted to debate policies and laws freely in this country means that we need have no concerns about which policies and laws we adopt?

[LessinSF]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
This is like Less' ridiculous retort to the Islamic response to the Pope's [hit the bullseye] remark about Muslim violence - oooh, the Christians were violent too some 300 hundred years ago. Let's talk about last week, shall we?

Nice try at reinventing what I said, but none of it was about the (admittedly) atrocious behavior of the church 300 years ago. I am disappointed; I would hoped for a more honest response from you.

My post wasn't about (true though) the atrocities committed in Jesus' name by the Catholic church for almost 2000 years. Instead, I inferred to abuses by recent and current fathers, bishops, archbishops, brothers, and whatever titles they imbue themselves with that justifies making a 9 year old boy suck a saintly dick.

And, again, I wrote-

"that aside, the Catholic Church is responsible for just as much grief every day as any imam. If you want to count - I suspect there are an indistinguishly simililar amount of unwanted babies, preventable AIDS cases, paedophilic victims, and people suffering from curable diseases than victims of Islamic jihad or ritual female circumciscion."

If I was writing about 300 years ago, I was awfully prescient. Better than Nostradamus even. Because if Nostradamus could predict the future, he would have told us all, Pope included, wear condoms. And God, even the fucked-up version sold by Benedict, wouldn't create a place where a woman doesn't even have the ability to make her own choice between right and wrong, good and evil, apple or abstinence, etc. No, instead, you are born, you are castrated, you are raped, you get AIDS, you die. Thanks, God.

[Spanky]

Where is the flaw in my logic? (If you are going to argue with this post please pick out the number of the specific statement that you disagree with and point out why its assumption is wrong).

1) In order for Al Queda to operate effectively, and to pull off further terrorist attacks, it must keep the identities of its operatives secret.

2) One of the most effective ways to hamper Al Queda effectiveness is to expose what individuals are working with them

3) One place this extremely valuable information (the identities of Al Queda operatives) can definitely be secured is from captured Al Queda operatives.

4) It is part of human nature not to want to expose ones friends and colleagues to danger.

5) The stronger the bond between individuals, the less likely it is they will betray their friends and colleagues.

6) When fighting for a common cause these bonds become even tighter to the point where friends and colleagues are willing to sacrifice their lives for each other.

7) Strong religious belief in ones cause makes individuals even more committed to their causes than normal.

8) Many Al Queda operative have so much religious zeal they are willing to die for their cause.

9) Al Queda operatives, because of their religious zeal, and bonds formed through fighting for a common cause, are going to be extremely reluctant to divulge the identities of their fellow conspirators.

10) It will take a very strong incentive to get these operatives to divulge the names of their fellow members.

11) Pain, mental and physical abuse, and the fear of those, are proven tools to get people to do things they normally wouldn't do.

12) Besides pain, mental and physical abuse, and the fear of such things, there are no other consistently effective methods that can be used to get these Al Queda operatives to betray their colleagues.

13) Although such tactics may sometimes get captured Al Queda operatives to give up bad information, that does not mean that these tactics do not sometimes produce valuable information

14) One way to reduce the ratio of good information to bad information produced by the captive using such techniques is to let the captive know that if the information they give out is bad the treatment will get even worse. If the information is good the bad treatment will be reduced.

15) Most Americans would like to live in a world were pain, physical and mental abuse, were not effective interrogation techniques because there would be no incentive to use them.

16) Such preferences makes many Americans incredibly biased towards any information that would back up the idea that pain, physical and mental abuse, and the fear of such, are not effective interrogation techniques.