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Old 10-05-2006, 12:21 PM   #2836
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I thought you gave up the gay schtick when you actually started getting laid again?
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:24 PM   #2837
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I thought you gave up the gay schtick when you actually started getting laid again?
Do you think Foley should be allowed to marry his pages?
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:26 PM   #2838
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Do you think Foley should be allowed to marry his pages?
just one of them, or are we back to poligamy?
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:28 PM   #2839
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this is all really really important, i know- but is it really more important than a California Public School teaching Islam?
My comment on that is that it sounds like the school went a bit too far in teaching *about* Islam. It should have been fixed at the school level, or by the school district before suit was ever filed. Unfortunately, they felt like they couldn't change after suit was filed because of the prevailing party attorneys fee provisions for section 1983 actions (I haven't read the suit, by I assume that that was the claim).

It actually reminded me of my middle school, when we learned about Judaism, and had to try to keep kosher. That's when I learned that Mayor McCheese was an abomination, btw -- I was a bright lad, and already knew about ham and bacon, but the meat and dairy thing was new.
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:28 PM   #2840
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The guy is clearly a creep - and it's not a shame to see him go - but the timing of the leak and this hypocritical moral outrage from the Left is staggering.
I'm afraid you may be mistaken. The Left may be saying words that sound like disapproval, and they are, but they're also cheering that they've found a scandal that Americans understand and are inclined to pay attention to, at least for a while.

The moral outrage and rending of hair is coming from your base, which is going batshit crazy. Meantime, each day is one less to talk about peacenik commie Democrat terrorist sympathisers and reducing the marginal taxable rate to zero, and one more to talk about GOP leaders lining up in a circular firing squad. Enjoy.
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:33 PM   #2841
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The moral outrage and rending of hair is coming from your base, which is going batshit crazy.
Not necessarily. This actually may be a case of beltway stuff that really doesn't impact people outside of the sphere of politics. I mean, everyone knows that South Floridia was a godless place, and party leaders are supposed to be corrupt. (see, motherfucking jackass Tom DeLay) Has nothing to do with the guy bringing home a GM factory and a bridge to nowhere.
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:38 PM   #2842
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I don't think Foley was thrown under the bus. I think he quit because he knew that he'd never survive the disclosure of the IMs.

eta: And as RT points out, he already wanted out.
Confirmation of this, which I hadn't seen before:

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  • Hastert went on to tell Limbaugh's listeners--and other audiences--that he and the GOP leadership had facilitated Foley's resignation.

    "We took care of Mr. Foley," Hastert said. "We found out about it, asked him to resign. He did resign. He's gone."

    That wasn't true.

    Foley resigned before anyone in leadership could speak to him.

    Hastert spokesman Ron Bonjean later told ABC News that the speaker had "misspoke" because he had been under the mistaken impression that someone in leadership had advised Foley to resign.

Must have been those conniving Democrats who tricked him into believing he'd asked Foley to resign.

On the other hand, the more Hastert botches the scandal-control, the more it gives credence to the theory that he couldn't possibly have orchestrated a Foley cover-up. Judging from his recent media appearances, the man isn't competent to cover up a zit much less a sex-predator scandal.
So Hastert tried to take credit for canning Foley, but laster had to admit it wasn't true.

Boy howdy, Hastert is really proving himself here. It's getting to where I'd hate to see him go.
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:41 PM   #2843
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Studds actually banged "underage"pages, was vehemently defended by the Gay community because the age of consent was 16 in DC, remained in Congress for 13[?] years, and was even honored by Clinton by being named to serve on the National AIDS Quilt commitee.

Foley is a pervert who "attempted" to engage in cybersex.

The guy is clearly a creep - and it's not a shame to see him go - but the timing of the leak and this hypocritical moral outrage from the Left is staggering.
You see no hypocracy in the party of Pat Robertson and Newt Gingrich have a spokesperson on protecting children who is stalking them?

It looks like the timing was determined by Republican leakers and news outlets - find the hand of the D in there, please, before making the charge again.

For me, this is another straw on the back of a very burdened camel - I remain surprised that this straw seems to way heavier than the DeLay one, since he strikes me as about as corrupt and cynical as they come in politics, but maybe it's because it is driving home the fact that the House Leadership and the Administration have worked very hard to look the other way on a lot of issues.

On Studds - I was the age of that page when it happened, the guy got censured, which was the same punishment handed down to an R engaged in sex with a page at the same time, and this is the best you can come up with? Got anything from the Roosevelt administration you're upset with?
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:47 PM   #2844
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Roger Simon, last seen here in a post quoted by Slave bemoaning Mark Foley's lack of privacy, has been doing his level best to publicize the identity of one of the former Congressional pages involved in the Foley thing.

That there is some real style and class.
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:49 PM   #2845
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Roger Simon, last seen here in a post quoted by Slave bemoaning Mark Foley's lack of privacy, has been doing his level best to publicize the identity of one of the former Congressional pages involved in the Foley thing.

That there is some real style and class.
You mean like your boy David Corn hanging the occupations of all the "closeted" GOPers out there for all to see?
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:53 PM   #2846
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On Studds - I was the age of that page when it happened, the guy got censured, which was the same punishment handed down to an R engaged in sex with a page at the same time, and this is the best you can come up with? Got anything from the Roosevelt administration you're upset with?
Well, James Michael Curley didn't jump under a bus and resign from the House when he was convicted of mail fraud, and was elected Mayor of Boston after that. Those wacky voters in Mass.

(Whoops. The conviction was when Truman was president, and he got a pardon, too.)
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You mean like your boy David Corn hanging the occupations of all the "closeted" GOPers out there for all to see?
One difference is that David Corn did not identify those folks, while Roger Simon is identifying the ex-page. So, no: not "like" that.

N.B. -- David Corn is not my boy. I won't say I've never read him, but I only go to his site when someone sends me there, and I don't get any periodicals he writes for.
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:54 PM   #2848
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July?????

And have the stones to suggest this wasn't an orchestrated hatchet job timed exactly one month before Election Day?
Apparently the Organized Left tried to tell the FBI about it in July, too.

Dumbshits. Don't they realize that July is the dead news cycle?
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:59 PM   #2849
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You see no hypocracy in the party of Pat Robertson and Newt Gingrich have a spokesperson on protecting children who is stalking them?
Stalking "Children"? Here we go again.

Personally, when I was "child" of 16, I was in college pledging a fraternity and banging "adult" women aged 18 or so.

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On Studds - I was the age of that page when it happened, the guy got censured, which was the same punishment handed down to an R engaged in sex with a page at the same time, and this is the best you can come up with? Got anything from the Roosevelt administration you're upset with?
By your logic - Studds was fucking children. And this deserved nothing more than a censure?

As for other incidents, I already mentioned McGreevey, Clinton.

I'd go google a few hundred more, but my team - unlike yours and Ty's is actually in the playoffs and I have more important things to do right now.
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I'd go google a few hundred more, but my team - unlike yours and Ty's is actually in the playoffs and I have more important things to do right now.
Yeah! Take THAT, you old Red Sox meanies, you!
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