Posting Towards Gomorrah - Page 206

Hank Chinaski · 10-12-2006, 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Unclear to me. We never normalized relations or built the light-water reactors we promised them -- I'm still waiting for you to admit that you were flat-out wrong about that -- so I'm not sure which side of the "most" line we were on.

So you're saying Clinton caused them not to trust us. Admission accepted.

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Was that in the treaty? We can verify some things without inspectors on the ground. The uranium program was easier for them to hide than the plutonium.

Cite please? And with support for why you understand the technical details of what you post.

taxwonk · 10-12-2006, 11:29 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Spanky don't answer this.

SS, before Spanky answers, first please outline what you know about nuclear technology and your source for the knowledge. You can summarize with course numbers from accreditied colleges. If you can't so that, then STFU.

This is ridiculous. One might just as easily ask you to prove any knowledge of the law and the source thereof. Any chimp can make shit up if there's no way to check the transcript.

taxwonk · 10-12-2006, 11:31 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
what I have read I actually understand, and I understand that I don't know enough to sort the opinion from the fact.

In other words, you're approaching the edge of your ability to discuss this?

Secret_Agent_Man · 10-13-2006, 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by Spanky
What you call making videos could also be described as giving aid and comfort to the enemy. He is helping Al Queda organize so they can kill Americans. This guy, if caught, she be executed just like the Rosenbergs.

I know what he's done, and I know it is aiding and comforting our enemy.

One size does not fit all in terms of punishment however. Tokyo Rose wasn't executed. John Walker Lindh got what, 20 years in prison?

The Rosenbergs were convicted of selling atomic secrets, obtained as spies, as I recall. You can't rationally compare these two cases. [But that never stops you.]

If the evidence shows that this young burnout taught Al Qaeda any American "secrets" beyond heavy metal music and goat farming techniques, I'll reconsider. At this point, however, I think a nice long prison term would suffice.

S_A_M

Secret_Agent_Man · 10-13-2006, 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Spanky don't answer this.

SS, before Spanky answers, first please outline what you know about nuclear technology and your source for the knowledge. You can summarize with course numbers from accreditied colleges. If you can't so that, then STFU.

Hank --

Check yourself, apply this criteria, and I expect to see your post total decline by at least 80%.

Hypocrite.

S_A_M

Shape Shifter · 10-13-2006, 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I would put you on ignore, except that would be too ironic given what harm Clinton's ignoring al queda and afghanistan did to our country and the harm you responding to Ty does to this board.

Just STFU and let the adults talk.

Hank Chinaski · 10-13-2006, 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Just STFU and let the adults talk.

see, you can form original thoughts. You don't need to just regurgitate blogs opinions!!!

Of course, it seems your original thoughts are limited to vile hatred.

Shape Shifter · 10-13-2006, 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
see, you can form original thoughts. You don't need to just regurgitate blogs opinions!!!

Of course, it seems your original thoughts are limited to vile hatred.

:love:

Hank Chinaski · 10-13-2006, 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
:love:

nice! but we already have a spanky

ltl/fb · 10-13-2006, 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
:love:

I totally do not get this smiley.

Oh, wait, are they shaking hands?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 10-13-2006, 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
I totally do not get this smiley.

No, Coltrane and Sebby engaging in some fraternal sword-play.

Tyrone Slothrop · 10-13-2006, 11:07 PM

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ltl/fb · 10-14-2006, 01:56 AM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
No, Coltrane and Sebby engaging in some fraternal sword-play.

That is kinda pretty hotttt. How do I get involved? Any tips?

Spanky · 10-14-2006, 04:39 AM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
A lot of denial

You say that they stopped producing plutonium because of the Clinton deal - how do you know that?

On Oct. 17, 2002 the New York Times reported on the front page "Confronted by new American intelligence, North Korea has admitted that it has been conducting a major clandestine nuclear weapons development program for the past several years."

In other words, during the end of the Clinton administration they were producing nuclear weapons even though Clinton was bribing them.

Bush made them start producing the bomb? Are you kidding? They were producing one long before he got into office. That is if you assume they ever stopped. We know they were developing weapons in the beginning of the Clinton administration, and at the end, on the only reason we believe they stopped in the middle is because they never admitted that they were.

Your statement is also absurd because it assumes they didn't really want to build a bomb, but when Bush started Saber rattling they decided they needed one? They have one of the largest armies in the world because of their fear of being invaded and yet they only decided they needed a nuclear bomb to scare of the west when Bush made some comments? And I suppose you believe in the tooth fairy.

This idiot has always wanted a bomb. Of course he wants a bomb. Why wouldn't he? He has been trying to build a bomb for years, and we just gave him a bunch of stuff to bribe him from not building a bomb yet he built one anyway. Only an idiot would be surprised by that.

Why is it the Democrats are always saying that these totalitarian regimes only get belligerent because we provoke them? If Bush had not said mean things about the North Koreans they wouldn't have built a bomb, if we were nice to the Iranians they wouldn't build a bomb, if we had just been nice to Castro he wouldn't have turn to the communists, if we had been nice to the Chinese they wouldn't gotten involved in Korea, if we had just been nice to the Russians they wouldn't have felt the need to take over Eastern Europe. Be nice to Hitler and he will stop with the Sudetenland.

When will you idiots realize that these guys don't need any provocation? Nasty words on our part let them know we are on to them. Being nice to them just makes them think they are getting away with something. How many times do we have to learn that lesson?

Appeasement never works with totalitarian dictators. I will say it again.
Appeasement never works with totalitarian dictators. Being nice to them just makes them think we are weak and they can take advantage of us.

Trying to Bribe the North Koreans was one of the dumbest foreign policy moves of this century.

I approved of most of Clintons foreign policy moves. But on this one he fell into the old trap of thinking you could appease this guy. He was wrong.

(sorry Hank, I tried to go Cold Turkey but I just couldn't help myself. :shrug: )

Spanky · 10-14-2006, 04:43 AM