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10-24-2006, 01:07 PM
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#3631
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Why, Bilmore, Why?
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This is good, funny stuff.
With more posts like this, you might supplant Shifter as Board court jester.
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Thank you.
The funny thing is, can you find any other explanation for where those votes in Montana seem to be coming from? Has there been a recent influx of McGovernite Hippies, so Missoula has grown to the size of Denver?
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10-24-2006, 01:07 PM
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#3632
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Calame buried his mea culpa very, very deep into an article having little to do with the topic.
Rather than resign in disgrace, he'll probably win a Pulitzer.
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this is passive aggressive, to respond to bilmore instead of my actual cite.
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10-24-2006, 01:09 PM
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#3633
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Consigliere
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Tyrone Slothrop
Is the role of the media to be a cheerleader during wartime, or is it to provide information? Seeing as how we live in a democracy, I would have thought the former.
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Are we talking about a media that films and reports staged scenes to be reported as real? That manipulates photos? That routinely perpetuates the Blood libel?
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10-24-2006, 01:19 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Are we talking about a media that films and reports staged scenes to be reported as real? That manipulates photos? That routinely perpetuates the Blood libel?
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And don't forget how they hide all of the great news from Iraq. You know, the... um... well...
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10-24-2006, 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Are we talking about a media that films and reports staged scenes to be reported as real? That manipulates photos? That routinely perpetuates the Blood libel?
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What do you mean, "we," kemo sabe?
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10-24-2006, 01:23 PM
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#3636
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Hank Chinaski
this is passive aggressive, to respond to bilmore instead of my actual cite.
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You're awfully sensitive lately.
I'll assume it's because you're sleepy from staying up late and not used to watching baseball so late in the season.
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10-24-2006, 01:24 PM
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#3637
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Sidd Finch
And don't forget how they hide all of the great news from Iraq. You know, the... um... well...
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Excellent point.
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10-24-2006, 01:30 PM
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#3638
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Excellent point.
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Apropos of which, here's an interesting article from (noted hotbed of lefty traitors) the Weekly Standard about how the Army essentially is preventing the reporting of news from Iraq and Afghanistan. Here are the first two paragraphs, but the whole thing is worth reading:
- In a counterinsurgency, the media battlespace is critical. When it comes to mustering public opinion, rallying support, and forcing opponents to shift tactics and timetables to better suit the home team, our terrorist enemies are destroying us. Al Qaeda's media arm is called al Sahab: the cloud. It feels more like a hurricane. While our enemies have "journalists" crawling all over battlefields to chronicle their successes and our failures, we have an "embed" media system that is so ineptly managed that earlier this fall there were only 9 reporters embedded with 150,000 American troops in Iraq. There were about 770 during the initial invasion.
Many blame the media for the estrangement, but part of the blame rests squarely on the chip-laden shoulders of key military officers and on the often clueless Combined Press Information Center in Baghdad, which doesn't manage the media so much as manhandle them. Most military public affairs officers are professionals dedicated to their jobs, but it takes only a few well-placed incompetents to cripple our ability to match and trump al Sahab. By enabling incompetence, the Pentagon has allowed the problem to fester to the point of censorship.
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10-24-2006, 01:32 PM
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#3639
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Tyrone Slothrop
What do you mean, "we," kemo sabe?
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"We" meaning you and your buddy

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10-24-2006, 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I think that has to do with what I think is a misconception (at least at the extremes) of the appropriate role for a journalist and/or the demands imposed by journalistic ethics. The exposure of the international banking surveillance program was a bad call, as I think I said at the time.
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I'd be happy if the press took one role consistently, and stuck to it, no matter which party was running the war. Problem is, the press, instead, seems to decide "the proper role of the press" based on which party called the shots. I'm not recalling the nightly vids of the East Timor massacre Clinton chose to ignore. 10,000 or so - wasn't that news? Could hardly hear about it here. And, the instant disappearance of the 9/11 vids - they weren't news? The press decided that other values trumped the news value. Heck, Rather, who was in agreement that the 9/11 vids were "too divisive" to air in spite of their news value decided that fake memos supporting his hatred of Bush were appropriate "news." No, the press doesn't need to be cheerleaders, but they also don't need to be active campaign workers.
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As for Foley, how old are your boys?
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One, at least, is what our society (in several states, including the ones pertinent to the Foley mess) term "of the age of consent." Do I have problems with that? To some extent, yes. But, that's the law, right? Or, are there different classes of kids, and some of "those others" can go get laid, but not our dear little (lily white, suburban) page-material kids? (I may have a misconception on this, but it strikes me that an initiative to lower the age of consent to 16 would likely have been a liberal one, not a conservative one, but here we have the liberals decrying someone talking about sex to someone who they deem can go have it without question. If, however, the lowering-age thing was actually a conservative initiative, then I'm wrong about this.)
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10-24-2006, 01:33 PM
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Quote:
Tyrone Slothrop
Apropos of which, here's an interesting article from (noted hotbed of lefty traitors) the Weekly Standard about how the Army essentially is preventing the reporting of news from Iraq and Afghanistan. Here are the first two paragraphs, but the whole thing is worth reading:
- In a counterinsurgency, the media battlespace is critical. When it comes to mustering public opinion, rallying support, and forcing opponents to shift tactics and timetables to better suit the home team, our terrorist enemies are destroying us. Al Qaeda's media arm is called al Sahab: the cloud. It feels more like a hurricane. While our enemies have "journalists" crawling all over battlefields to chronicle their successes and our failures, we have an "embed" media system that is so ineptly managed that earlier this fall there were only 9 reporters embedded with 150,000 American troops in Iraq. There were about 770 during the initial invasion.
Many blame the media for the estrangement, but part of the blame rests squarely on the chip-laden shoulders of key military officers and on the often clueless Combined Press Information Center in Baghdad, which doesn't manage the media so much as manhandle them. Most military public affairs officers are professionals dedicated to their jobs, but it takes only a few well-placed incompetents to cripple our ability to match and trump al Sahab. By enabling incompetence, the Pentagon has allowed the problem to fester to the point of censorship.
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They are also cracking down on US milbloggers, which is shameful.
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10-24-2006, 01:38 PM
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#3642
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Too Good For Post Numbers
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Calame buried his mea culpa very, very deep into an article having little to do with the topic.
Rather than resign in disgrace, he'll probably win a Pulitzer.
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But he was justified because Bush had been so vicious to the NYT.
What a moron.
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10-24-2006, 01:43 PM
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#3643
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I am beyond a rank!
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Originally posted by bilmore
And, the instant disappearance of the 9/11 vids - they weren't news?
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Was your TV broken in the last few months of September 2001? The vids of 9/11 were playing so constantly that people were glued to their TV sets in terror. It was even the subject of a (tasteless, obviously) South Park joke.
The only vids that disappeared were those of people jumping off of the WTC. But there were plenty of still photos of those, even years later, and even in the liberal media you so hate (NYTimes, New Yorker, etc.)
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10-24-2006, 01:49 PM
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#3644
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Was your TV broken in the last few months of September 2001?
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The last few months of September . . .? Okay, I think I know what you mean, but . . .
What I remember is, they played constantly for about three or four days, and then - bang - gone - once someone decided that viewers might be mad inappropriately, when what we really ought to have been doing was contemplating what we did to them to make them so justifiably mad at us. Heck, Sidd, there were national talk shows the very next week with people arguing about whether the networks were right to have pulled them so quickly.
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10-24-2006, 02:00 PM
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WacKtose Intolerant
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Originally posted by bilmore
The last few months of September . . .? Okay, I think I know what you mean, but . . .
What I remember is, they played constantly for about three or four days, and then - bang - gone - once someone decided that viewers might be mad inappropriately, when what we really ought to have been doing was contemplating what we did to them to make them so justifiably mad at us. Heck, Sidd, there were national talk shows the very next week with people arguing about whether the networks were right to have pulled them so quickly.
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The liberal media and the politicians that they run cover for carefully censour and bias the news to avoid letting the sheeple realise how the Dems' negligence and treason during the 90s led directly to such a brutal and horrific attack on America.
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