Posting Towards Gomorrah

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Spanky
I have seen studies on what public schools cost per student and what private schools cost per student, and the private school are always way cheaper. I have seen studies that show Catholic schools spend as little as a third of public schools per student.

You get what you pay for. Catholic Schools are atrocious. I went to one for a few years between public and private school. It was garbage - indoctrination offered by ignorami. Shit facilities, shit teachers and a shit curriculum. I learned more in public school than Catholic or private. Maybe I was lucky - my district had a good public school.

[Spanky]

Zogby Congressional Poll as of 11/1
15 Key House Races

(all now held by Republicans)
What is the status of the seat?
Who now leads?

AZ-8 (R: Graf vs. D: Giffords)
Open
Democrat Giffords +11

CO-7 (R: O'Donnell vs. Dermutter)
Open
Democrat Perlmutter +14

CT-2 (R:Simmons vs. D:Courtney)
Simmons up for reelection
Republican Simmons +4

CT-4 (R:Shays vs. D:Farrell)
Shays up for reelection
Democrat Farrell +7

IA-1 (R:Whalen vs. D: Braley)
Open
Democrat Braley +7

IL-6 (R:Roskam vs. D: Duckworth)
Open
Democrat Duckworth +14

IN-2 (R: Chocola vs. Donnelly)
Chocola up for reelection
Democrat Donnelly +13

IN-9 (R:Sodrel vs. D: Hill)
Sodrel up for reelection
Democrat Hill +2

KY-4 (R: Davis vs. D: Lucas)
Davis up for reelection
Democrat Lucas +3

MN-6 (R: Bachmann vs. D:Wetterling)
Open
Republican Bachmann +10

NC-11(R: Taylor vs. D:Shuler)
Taylor up for reelection
Democrat Schuler +4

NM-1(R:Wilson vs. D: Madrid)
Wilson up for reelection
Democrat Madrid +9

OH-18 (R: Padgett vs. D:Space)
Open
Democrat Space +20

PA-6 (R: Gerlach vs. D: Murphy)
Gerlach up for reelection
Democrat Murphy +5

VA-2 (R: Drake vs. D: Kellam)
Drake up for reelection
Republican Drake +8

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Spanky
I have seen studies on what public schools cost per student and what private schools cost per student, and the private school are always way cheaper. I have seen studies that show Catholic schools spend as little as a third of public schools per student.

Of course it is somewhat unfair because public schools are required to give every student an equal education. So unlike public schools, private schools don't have to set up programs for students that get kicked out or have disabilities.

All we have to do is turn all American education over to religious denominations with vows of poverty.

The Pope would like this idea, assuming they could make it work. Might have to import nuns from South America.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Mine is "the disgusting vat of filth that no self-respecting intelligent person with good ideas would ever want to wade into."

Oh dear. This seems like a trap. Ty clearly knows me well enough to know that if the PB were named using a quote of mine, I would feel compelled to stop by and read it more often. I am that much of a narcissist. Now I understand why politicians run for office.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

The Washington Post's John Harris has been attacked by -- and has done his fair share of attacking -- the lefty blogs in the past year. Most recently, he has a book out with ABC News' Mark Halperin about political media coverage. Halperin has been doing the rounds on conservative media, flogging the book and kissing up to the likes of Hugh Hewitt. I give this background just to point out that Harris is someone who has been accused of leaning too far to the right lately. Anyhoo, he said the following in a convo on Slate with Halperin, excerpted here:

• For what it’s worth, I think our failures in campaign and government coverage usually have less to do with ideology and more to do with journalistic conventions. We follow noise, as witnessed by the coverage of the Kerry-Iraq uproar in recent days. (Though please note that this classic freak-show story ran inside the Post today, not on the front page.) And our professional habits and stylebook rules sometimes inhibit us from telling the truth—and from saying that someone is lying—in plain, conversational language. We let it become a matter of controversy whether it is sunny or rainy, when sometimes it’s a matter of fact. This is one area of the liberal critique of Old Media that often is pretty compelling.

Although I don't have a lot of respect for Harris after one particular story that I followed closely and posted about on my blog, but maybe not here, I thought it was interesting that here he's echoing some of what I was saying recently.

In the last several years, the GOP has been much better at exploiting these conventions than Democrats, although they've also been exploiting the inherent advantages of occupying the White House for working the media. The Kerry episode is an example. The media loves stories that revolve around conflict, especially he-said/she-said conflict between two two parties, especially if it revolves around something on film. They have the original clip. Then politicians flock to give further reactions, each of which is grounds for an additional story. (This effort was clearly organized on the GOP side, which is what made the thing big on the first-day, although having the President arguing with John Kerry is enough fuel for a big fire right there.) No real reporting is needed when you have politicians lining up to give you sound bites. Then you can run the second-day stories about the political impact of the whole thing, and third-story stories about the media coverage. You don't get accused of bias, because you evenhandedly run what both sides say. Presto.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Spanky

[Bombast and Lies]

Begin investigations against President Bush and his Administration.
Under no circumstances can we allow that to happen.

[More Begging]


Sincerely,



Bill Frist M.D.
Senate Majority Leader



:bounce:

What they're really worried about.

If they weren't crooks, they wouldn't be so worried.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
All we have to do is turn all American education over to religious denominations with vows of poverty.

The Pope would like this idea, assuming they could make it work. Might have to import nuns from South America.

I have a fear that vouchers could turn out like Socialism. Sounds great in theory (everybody sitting around singing kumbaya, no possessions, everyone working for the benefit of society not for themselves etc.) but the reality will be a total disaster because of unforseen problems.

Maybe some really red state like South Dakota will try it and we can use them as the guinea pig.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Spanky
Zogby Congressional Poll as of 11/1
15 Key House Races

Are those telephone polls or internet? I've heard that Zogby polls have been a little out there this year, particularly their internet polls.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Spanky
I have a fear that vouchers could turn out like Socialism. Sounds great in theory (everybody sitting around singing kumbaya, no possessions, everyone working for the benefit of society not for themselves etc.) but the reality will be a total disaster because of unforseen problems.

Maybe some really red state like South Dakota will try it and we can use them as the guinea pig.

Because whether or not it works in South Dakota is a good predictor of whether it would work somewhere that has, like, cities?

Yes. Now I am just being ornery. It's like I'm a regular member of your little community.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Oh dear. This seems like a trap. Ty clearly knows me well enough to know that if the PB were named using a quote of mine, I would feel compelled to stop by and read it more often. I am that much of a narcissist. Now I understand why politicians run for office.

All that, plus the blowjobs.

[Cletus Miller]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Because whether or not it works in South Dakota is a good predictor of whether it would work somewhere that has, like, cities?

Well, since allowing South Dakota students to go to better, cheaper schools would include bussing them out of state, maybe it's an idea. Of course, SD kids always, on average, do very well on the standardized tests, so by Spanky's evaluation, the schools are succesful.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Spanky

NC-11(R: Taylor vs. D:Shuler)
Taylor up for reelection
Democrat Schuler +4

BTW, folks who recoil in the horror that would be Speaker Pelosi should remember shit like this before Hannity gets the vapors and reaches for the hand fans and smelling salts. Any Democratic majority that includes wacko liberals like Heath Shuler will temper the Pelosi/Frank/Rangel homosexual terrorist-lovin' agenda.

A Pelosi House would be "constrained" by a White House (theoretically), Republicans (to some extent), and Blue Dog Democrats. And they, in turn, constrained by a Democratic Majority Leader. Thank God for gridlock.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Spanky
I have seen studies on what public schools cost per student and what private schools cost per student, and the private school are always way cheaper. I have seen studies that show Catholic schools spend as little as a third of public schools per student.

Of course it is somewhat unfair because public schools are required to give every student an equal education. So unlike public schools, private schools don't have to set up programs for students that get kicked out or have disabilities.

I don't know if you are looking at the right numbers Spank, eg the Catholic school cost per student numbers don't normally factour in the subsidy by the diocese, which is substantial in my experience in independent schools. On the independent side, are you sure the number factours in fundraising, i.e. is the cost per student from allocated tuition or allocated tuition plus fundraising dollars? The typical independent school has a several thousand dollar gulf between cost to educate a student and tuition per student, which gulf is bridged by fundraising.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Spanky
I have a fear that vouchers could turn out like Socialism. Sounds great in theory (everybody sitting around singing kumbaya, no possessions, everyone working for the benefit of society not for themselves etc.) but the reality will be a total disaster because of unforseen problems.

Maybe some really red state like South Dakota will try it and we can use them as the guinea pig.

Dude, public education is in the same state of ruin as the Roman Empire, an alternative that would be as successful as say Cuban style commu-socialism would be several steps up the ladder.

[SlaveNoMore]

Gattigap
Thank God for gridlock.

A thread title I think everyone who posts here can agree on.