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Old 11-03-2006, 12:28 PM   #4831
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Wow. Arguing over an economist joke. Burger, you're a classic.
You asked for it!

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Wow, those economists are a wacky bunch. Can we get more of them to post here.
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Old 11-03-2006, 12:31 PM   #4832
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Maybe it's just me, but it seems like this might influence the election more than John Kerry's star turn.
Why, is he running for something?

Nice that the Dems are playing the homophobic card again by outing people.
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Old 11-03-2006, 12:35 PM   #4833
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I love it everytime a story like this comes out. Just makes me smile.

On a related note, how many times does a priest have to be accused of something like this (or even worse) before the masses wil realize how full of shit our religious institutions are? Or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe God really does choose to speak only through pediphiles.
True.

They should take a page from Islam. Accept that buggery is rampant and then just behead anyone that criticizes you.
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Old 11-03-2006, 12:35 PM   #4834
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Pat Buchanan's reasons for why the Rs are losing: : A combination of corruption and excessive commitment to free trade principles.
You keep coming back to this corruption point, which I find odd, particularly in light of the other, much more readily made objections. The Bush administration itself is well behind the corruption record under Clinton, where 3 cabinet secretarys were corrupt (if you want, I'll give up Brown, who died prior to indictment, but no more Ken Lay jokes)

The highest up it's gotten for Bush is David Safavian, who was convicted of telling Abramoff about some building sales, and then lied about it.

If you go to Congress, I'll see your randy cunningham with william jefferson.

the stench is everywhere in this town, not just in the current white house.
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Old 11-03-2006, 12:37 PM   #4835
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What if the patrons are 8 Microsoft EVPs and there are 8 minimum wage waitrons already there?
I'd find a more lively bar.
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Old 11-03-2006, 12:41 PM   #4836
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A Political Memo article yesterday about the fallout for Senator John Kerry over what he called a “botched joke” referred incompletely to the differences between prepared remarks and what he actually said about the Iraq war to students at Pasadena City College in California on Monday. Mr. Kerry not only dropped the word “us,” but he also rephrased his opening sentence extensively and omitted a reference to President Bush. Mr. Kerry’s aides said that the prepared text read: “Do you know where you end up if you don’t study, if you aren’t smart, if you’re intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq. Just ask President Bush.” What he said: “You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.
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Old 11-03-2006, 12:46 PM   #4837
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Why, is he running for something?
Like Kerry, he is not running for office in the 2006 election. Like Kerry, one can imagine that the episode might affect turnout among the GOP base next week.

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Nice that the Dems are playing the homophobic card again by outing people.
The word "Democrat" doesn't even appear in that FOX story. Are you blowing smoke, or do you have other info?

The story isn't clear, but it suggests that he was outed by the guy he was screwing, who was bothered that Haggard was publicly opposing an anti-gay-marriage state referendum:
  • Among the allegations made by Mike Jones, 49, of Denver, was that Haggard paid him for sex and snorted methamphetamine with him before their sexual encounters to heighten the experience.

    Jones said he decided to go public with his story because of Haggard's opposition to the proposed state ban on gay marriage.

    "I just want people to step back and take a look and say, 'Look, we're all sinners, we all have faults, but if two people want to get married, just let them, and let them have a happy life,'" said Jones, who added that he is gay and is not working for any political group.

    "It made me angry that here's someone preaching about gay marriage and going behind the scenes having gay sex," he said.

    Colorado voters will decide on the gay-marriage ban amendment when they vote next Tuesday.

    Jones claimed Haggard paid him to have sex nearly every month over three years. He said he advertised himself as an escort on the Internet and was contacted by a man who called himself Art.
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Old 11-03-2006, 12:48 PM   #4838
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2. The only downside is that the Rs don't sputter and wet themselves quite as dramatically over Kerry as they do when you say "Hillary!"
For me Hillary and Gore don't scare me at all. If either one of them became president I wouldn't lose much sleep over it. Kerry on the other hand makes my skin crawl. He would be a total disaster.
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Old 11-03-2006, 12:51 PM   #4839
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the stench is everywhere in this town, not just in the current white house.
The stench is emanating from the legislative branch, not from the White House or the courts. But some of those Clinton corruption prosecutions were pretty weak -- Mike Espy, anyone? The drop-off in that sort of thing plausibly has more to do with the termination of the independent prosecutor statute and the lack of interest on the part of anyone else with possible jurisdiction to pursue such things. The only action is HQ'd out of Chicago.
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Old 11-03-2006, 12:52 PM   #4840
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Pat Buchanan's reasons for why the Rs are losing: : A combination of corruption and excessive commitment to free trade principles.

I suspect the new R, when the dust settles, will have a strong element of protectionism to go with its religious fundamentalism and hawkishness. More the inheritors of William Jennings Bryant (late in life - the Monkey Trial WJB) than Ronald Reagan.
Buchanan is an idiot. The Free trade sector of the Republican party completely overwhelms the few protectionist idiots. Corrruption is a problem, but so is the social conservatism, which Buchanan would never admit to.

That is where we tick of the center, not because of free trade.
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You get what you pay for. Catholic Schools are atrocious.
You are an absolute moron.

Two blanket statements -- mine is much closer to the truth.

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Old 11-03-2006, 12:56 PM   #4842
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Speaking of the NYT, should we talk about how it dropped the bombshell [pun intended] today that Saddam was only a year away from nukes and that he had all these terrorist ties...
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Why, is he running for something?
I agree. It won't have much traction, although I even wish it would. Hypocrisy can never get enough exposure. Now if it turned out Hastert was gay, that would have traction.

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Old 11-03-2006, 01:00 PM   #4844
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Speaking of the NYT, should we talk about how it dropped the bombshell [pun intended] today that Saddam was only a year away from nukes and that he had all these terrorist ties...
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Can you post this? Not the link because I am not signing up for the atrocious paper. Please, please, please.....
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3 cabinet secretarys were corrupt (if you want, I'll give up Brown,
Dead Prez claims Ron Brown was murdered.
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