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[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
I didn't mean schools.

ETA I am sorry I have killed the board.

Don't worry. I'm sure someone will step in to save it.

Oh wow -- I was right!

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
He's jolly and avuncular. That doesn't count as personality?

TM's still pissed his first job was serving Roker pizza.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
When the news talks about elections, like say the Ford campaign in Tenn., they say things like "he would be the first african-american senator from the south since reconstruction. I ave heard similar things in the past.

Why the qualifier? was there a black Senator during slavery? I don't get the phrasing.

The qualifier is there because, during Reconstruction (1866-76), there were several black senators and congressmen from the South. Why? A combination of reasons, but the short version is that blacks were allowed to vote, and many whites -- who had just engaged in armed rebellion against the national governement -- were not. Why did this change? During the Tilden-Hayes electoral college crisis in 1876, the Republicans agreed to withdraw the Army from the South in return for the one electoral vote needed by Hayes, and Reconstruction was effectively over.

Exit military governors, and enter Jim Crow laws, restrictions on black suffrage, traitors regaining public office, Nathan Bedford Forest (you know, the hero that George Allen naming his son after) and the Klan keeping the former citizens in check, and lots of bad Faulkner novels. There hasn't been a black senator from a formerly Confederate state since that time.

eta: Scroll, *then* post, Not Bob.

Post left intact to remind me that I really am a pretentious twit sometimes. And because the Faulkner comment amuses me.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall


*I fucking hate Al Roker. Here's a black man that has so totally sold out that he is completely without personality. He makes me sick.

I guess I understand this point intellectually, but not emotionally.

TM, the man is a weatherschmuck on the Today show. It is hardly a repository for meaningful personality. Being offended about this man doesn't make any sense, because the vehicle is designed for nothing more. It's as if I were to become upset about Weed getting piss-drunk.

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by Gattigap
I guess I understand this point intellectually, but not emotionally.

TM, the man is a weatherschmuck on the Today show. It is hardly a repository for meaningful personality. Being offended about this man doesn't make any sense, because the vehicle is designed for nothing more. It's as if I were to become upset about Weed getting piss-drunk.

Every time Weed gets piss-drunk, God kills a kitten.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Not Bob
The qualifier is there because, during Reconstruction (1866-76), there were several black senators and congressmen from the South. Why? A combination of reasons, but the short version is that blacks were allowed to vote, and many whites -- who had just engaged in armed rebellion against the national governement -- were not. Why did this change? During the Tilden-Hayes electoral college crisis in 1876, the Republicans agreed to withdraw the Army from the South in return for the one electoral vote needed by Hayes, and Reconstruction was effectively over.

Exit military governors, and enter Jim Crow laws, restrictions on black suffrage, traitors regaining public office, Nathan Bedford Forest (you know, the hero that George Allen naming his son after) and the Klan keeping the former citizens in check, and lots of bad Faulkner novels. There hasn't been a black senator from a formerly Confederate state since that time.

eta: Scroll, *then* post, Not Bob.

Post left intact to remind me that I really am a pretentious twit sometimes. And because the Faulkner comment amuses me.

I'm glad that you left it intact because I couldn't be bothered to click a link in order to learn anything. Embrace your pretension (pretensiousness?).

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by ltl/fb

ETA I am sorry I have killed the board.

I was also going to recommend the Cooper until you mentioned something stupid about 4 doors. I guess Balt and I are on the same wavelength.
Why in the hell do you need 4 doors? Driving groups around often?
If you're used to an Accord, a Civic is not going to cut it. Have you considered a nice fairly new used car?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Not Bob
The qualifier is there because, during Reconstruction (1866-76), there were several black senators and congressmen from the South. Why? A combination of reasons, but the short version is that blacks were allowed to vote, and many whites -- who had just engaged in armed rebellion against the national governement -- were not. Why did this change? During the Tilden-Hayes electoral college crisis in 1876, the Republicans agreed to withdraw the Army from the South in return for the one electoral vote needed by Hayes, and Reconstruction was effectively over.

Exit military governors, and enter Jim Crow laws, restrictions on black suffrage, traitors regaining public office, Nathan Bedford Forest (you know, the hero that George Allen naming his son after) and the Klan keeping the former citizens in check, and lots of bad Faulkner novels. There hasn't been a black senator from a formerly Confederate state since that time.

eta: Scroll, *then* post, Not Bob.

Post left intact to remind me that I really am a pretentious twit sometimes. And because the Faulkner comment amuses me.

John Faulkner's Dollar Cotton is actually a good novel. I assume you meant to restrict your indictment to brother william's tomes?

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
I was also going to recommend the Cooper until you mentioned something stupid about 4 doors. I guess Balt and I are on the same wavelength.
Why in the hell do you need 4 doors? Driving groups around often?
If you're used to an Accord, a Civic is not going to cut it. Have you considered a nice fairly new used car?

Maybe sometimes Fringey is a designated driver, or has family visit.

[patentparanyc]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Maybe sometimes Fringey is a designated driver, or has family visit.

It has to the the same rationale as to why she has a guest room.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Maybe sometimes Fringey is a designated driver, or has family visit.

she drives her cats to the vet- if she had a two door a cat could get out when she stopped for a donut pit stop?

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
she drives her cats to the vet- if she had a two door a cat could get out when she stopped for a donut pit stop?

Hank, you don't stop to get a snack on your way to the animal hospital.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
He's jolly and avuncular. That doesn't count as personality?

He is stupid and pathetic. Making the most obvious, unthreatening, homogenous, eunich-joke and removing from any issue or interview the possibility of a racial connotation in exchange for a cushy, sambo gig on The Today Show removes the possibility that I acknowledge he has a personality (other than sell-out, piece of shit). If I met him tomorrow, I would not shake his hand.

TM

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Hank, you don't stop to get a snack on your way to the animal hospital.

when one of our pets falls ill we butcher it to serve to the others. we're close to the earth that way.

[patentparanyc]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
He is stupid and pathetic. Making the most obvious, unthreatening, homogenous, eunich-joke and removing from any issue or interview the possibility of a racial connotation in exchange for a cushy, sambo gig on The Today Show removes the possibility that I acknowledge he has a personality (other than sell-out, piece of shit). If I met him tomorrow, I would not shake his hand.

TM

You spelled "eunuch" wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eunuch