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Old 11-10-2006, 12:03 PM   #4216
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Give me a break. Why does everything always have to be a big hug?

Let's start with your plaintiffs. They're upset because they thought their quotes would appear in a legitimate documentary and those quotes ended up getting made fun of instead? Fuck them. I'm sure they would have come off much better if they appeared in an actual documentary about dumbasses..

Secondly, the purpose is comedy. So he called the guy's wife ugly. So what? He's supposed to be a rube and it's clearly a joke. I'm not losing any sleep over their feelings. Nor am I upset about chickens set free in the subway or poop jokes.

I think what makes Borat brilliant is the fact that sometimes he forces people out of their comfort zones and sometimes he expands them. Both approaches are revealing in that they tend to show a person's true nature, whether they are taken aback by his primitive ways or whether they embrace them. Either way, it is an interesting look at people we don't generally get and it's almost always funny.

I haven't seen the movie yet, but based on what I've seen on HBO, your criticism rings hollow to me.

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I understand NotBob's criticism. You feel bad for some of the unsuspecting innocent rubes he drills. But hey, they'll get over it. The guy couldn't pack an hour and a half with bits involving strictly noxious racists/anti-semites. That'd be way too heavy for most people.

The other thing is, if you can't spot that this guy's fucking with you, you deserve to be the butt of a joke.
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Old 11-10-2006, 12:06 PM   #4217
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She is skinny, but not skin-and-bones skinny -- she has muscle and no flab anywhere and yet she has these spectacular boobs that seem to be all 100% real. She also seems to be in perfect proportion -- long legs and tall but not giraffe-like. She's really something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah... Get to the part about you soaping each other up.

"I gingerly handed the shampoo back to her." "Thanks," she smiled, my eyes scanning the rush of water running down the inside of her thigh...
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Old 11-10-2006, 12:10 PM   #4218
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Is the disco mitt making a comeback? My online research indicates nothing short of a full on war raging in the pubic styling world, breaking down over bare versus natural. I think the disco mitters are overplaying their hand. Pushing for the full mitt is too much too soon. A better course would have been to ease people toward the landing strip, then slowly broaden it in width (in a manner not unlike men's ties).
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Old 11-10-2006, 12:14 PM   #4219
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I was thinking that you could buy him some tees that you like or think you'd find amusing on a 9 year old you saw in your neighborhood. If nothing else, you could get something at Urban Outfitter or Old Navy, for example; that would certainly appeal to a kid with hipster aspirations.
I'm thinking that for someone who lives somewhere that there is no electricity, the hiposity of things is probably going to be different (possibly just delayed) and hipness in NYC may not translate. When we lived in the Deep South, my sister and I would get gifts from relatives in Michigan (hi Hank!). Based on the high level of popularity etc. our cousins enjoyed in their Michigan town, I'm sure what we were getting was the hippest of the hip -- but it didn't translate.

Yes, we did have electricity.
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Is the disco mitt making a comeback? My online research indicates nothing short of a full on war raging in the pubic styling world, breaking down over bare versus natural. I think the disco mitters are overplaying their hand. Pushing for the full mitt is too much too soon. A better course would have been to ease people toward the landing strip, then slowly broaden it in width (in a manner not unlike men's ties).
Here in upstate NY, I think the elections pressage the return of more mitt. We now have crunchy-granola all-natural types as Congressmen, the sleek, well-coiffed Republicans generally lost.

I also hear more and more of my Republican friends talking about mitt. Slave apparently has been pushing mitt, for example.
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The Y I used to go to in Chicago I think had just one big room. It was a while ago.
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Old 11-10-2006, 12:18 PM   #4222
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Let's start with your plaintiffs. They're upset because they thought their quotes would appear in a legitimate documentary and those quotes ended up getting made fun of instead? Fuck them. I'm sure they would have come off much better if they appeared in an actual documentary about dumbasses..
Agreed. As I noted, they were just the jumping off point.

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Secondly, the purpose is comedy. So he called the guy's wife ugly. So what? He's supposed to be a rube and it's clearly a joke. I'm not losing any sleep over their feelings. Nor am I upset about chickens set free in the subway or poop jokes.
Clearly a joke to you. Would you feel differently if you were running late for work and happened to be on that subway? Where does it say that your right to be entertained, and SBC's right to make a buck, somehow trumps my right as a commuter? These are not people who signed up for the movie. What gives Rupert Murdoch the right to make money off of them? If the purpose is comedy, why not hire actors to be the shocked commuters?

And I don't know what kind of dinner parties you go to, but if someone handed me a bag of their shit at the table, I wouldn't call it a poop joke. And I just find it incredibly rude to trick someone into inviting you into their home to mock and insult them like that. For what? The amusement of you and my daughter? And to line his pockets with the rewards derived from your amusement at watching the poor woman's reaction to being called ugly? Fuck that.

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I think what makes Borat brilliant is the fact that sometimes he forces people out of their comfort zones and sometimes he expands them. Both approaches are revealing in that they tend to show a person's true nature, whether they are taken aback by his primitive ways or whether they embrace them. Either way, it is an interesting look at people we don't generally get and it's almost always funny.
Right. I'm sure that it would be very interesting and socially significant to see how I -- not a public figure or elected official or anything other than a schmoe -- react to having a bag of your shit handed to me at a dinner party I am having in my house for someone who I have been tricked into believing is a foreign journalist. How avant garde to show my discomfort for your profit.

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I haven't seen the movie yet, but based on what I've seen on HBO, your criticism rings hollow to me.
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Old 11-10-2006, 12:31 PM   #4223
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Clearly a joke to you. Would you feel differently if you were running late for work and happened to be on that subway? Where does it say that your right to be entertained, and SBC's right to make a buck, somehow trumps my right as a commuter? These are not people who signed up for the movie. What gives Rupert Murdoch the right to make money off of them? If the purpose is comedy, why not hire actors to be the shocked commuters?
Rupert Murdoch is like a sugar-daddy to me, except that I don't do anything sexual with him. Can we please not bandy his name about? It wounds me.


And, the wild success of Borat may mean I get a really, really expensive Christmas gift from him, so shut it.
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Old 11-10-2006, 12:32 PM   #4224
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I'm thinking that for someone who lives somewhere that there is no electricity, the hiposity of things is probably going to be different (possibly just delayed) and hipness in NYC may not translate. When we lived in the Deep South, my sister and I would get gifts from relatives in Michigan (hi Hank!). Based on the high level of popularity etc. our cousins enjoyed in their Michigan town, I'm sure what we were getting was the hippest of the hip -- but it didn't translate.
When I was a young child (hi Hank!), my great aunt Esther sent me and my brother Post-It notes one Christmas. But I don't think she thought that was hip.
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Old 11-10-2006, 12:33 PM   #4225
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When I was a young child (hi Hank!), my great aunt Esther sent me and my brother Post-It notes one Christmas. But I don't think she thought that was hip.
They are usually expired Mc Donald's gift certificates if I recall correctly. post its are a deviation.

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His wife is Asian. And like, my age.

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Old 11-10-2006, 12:34 PM   #4226
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When I was a young child (hi Hank!), my great aunt Esther sent me and my brother Post-It notes one Christmas. But I don't think she thought that was hip.
We also used to get things that were hip (though, these not-quite-relatives were not as popular or whatever as the Michigan cousins) in Wisconsin.

NO, not cheese.

Actually, gifts that it seems like someone put a lot of thought into, but are just completely wrong, kind of make me want to cry.
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I'm thinking that for someone who lives somewhere that there is no electricity, the hiposity of things is probably going to be different (possibly just delayed) and hipness in NYC may not translate. When we lived in the Deep South, my sister and I would get gifts from relatives in Michigan (hi Hank!). Based on the high level of popularity etc. our cousins enjoyed in their Michigan town, I'm sure what we were getting was the hippest of the hip -- but it didn't translate.

Yes, we did have electricity.
I think something related to AMERICAN football would be greatly appreciated. Like a Seahawks shirt. Or football.

But seriously maybe some soccer shirts to go with the ball. Do you know if he's into anything else? Tennis? Basketball? Books?
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I vote to take over some other unrelated board out there in them internets. Just show up on the Peruvian Cat Fancy boards and meet up again. They'll be happy for the page hits, and we can move on to a new place every few weeks. Everyone will be passed the information by secret decoder ring, except ppnyc and NotBob. Sorry NotBob, but at least you still have your White Knight thing going. Have fun talking forever about shoes and purses.
So i just read this post about a post about a ppnyc post, where she posted in reply to a post about an earlier post of her's.

Now you've read my post about a post about a post about a ppnyc post, where she posted in reply to a post about an earlier post of her's.

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She is skinny, but not skin-and-bones skinny -- she has muscle and no flab anywhere and yet she has these spectacular boobs that seem to be all 100% real. She also seems to be in perfect proportion -- long legs and tall but not giraffe-like. She's really something.
How is her kissing?
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