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		|  07-19-2007, 11:39 AM | #3166 |  
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		| Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick This is excellent.  I can't say I have an opinion on the content, but I don't think I've ever seen someone's disgust for the childbirth process expressed quite so well.  A treat to read.
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		|  07-19-2007, 11:42 AM | #3167 |  
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		| Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall Let's take this from the top.
 
 You meet a guy who is a drunk or drug addict.Guy goes to rehab.You think guy is annoying because you can't drink around him.Guy convinces you to go to rehab.*Over every piece of sensible advice, you agree, when guy's lease comes up that he needs to move in with you "temporarily."Guy talks to exes all the time, even though you tell him you don't like it.You fix this situation in the only way he will understand -- by pretending to have your exes interested in you.Guy wants kids.You don't want kids.Guy pushes for kids during 4 months of his "temporary" stay.You get dog instead.You hate animals.You choose one of the neediest, energetic dog breeds in the world.
 Shall we extrapolate from this what happens next?
 
 Guy convinces you that two girls and one guy, under the same roof, is the perfectly balanced relationship?Guy starts a pyramid scheme and gets you to join after the 10th round?Guy jumps off bridge, you follow?
 What the fuck has happened to your mind, woman?
 
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 *I said, "No, no, no."
 |  I totally see where you are coming from, but to clarify:
 
Rehab Boy is a different guy from the current BF, who has been sober more than 3 years.  That said, current BF was a CRACK addict.  Super classy.
 
No one forced me to go to rehab.  I said "no, no, no."  I started going to AA because I was becoming a total drunk and cokehead and did not want to die like my little sister.  But I had been getting wasted after my AA meetings for about four months before current BF called me on it and I have been sober ever since.  It was our first date.  We have been dating, and I have been sober, four months and five days.  We have been living together since May 31.
 
It doesn't bother me that he talks to his exes.  Hell, I talk to mine all the time.  What bothers me is his random and inappropriate mentions of them.  And though I did act out the scenario above I made it clear I was kidding but wanted to get my point accross, and I did.
 
Re my mind?  I have no idea.  I was better off when I was a drunk!
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		|  07-19-2007, 11:45 AM | #3168 |  
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		| Originally posted by Shape Shifter Her skin looks better now.
 |  These rehab types are all about the bukkake.
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		|  07-19-2007, 11:46 AM | #3169 |  
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		| Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone These rehab types are all about the bukkake.
 |   I was scrolling down the NYT main page yesterday and thought I saw "Bukkake" whiz by.  When I scrolled back up, it turned out to be "Bernanke." |  
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		|  07-19-2007, 11:46 AM | #3170 |  
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		| Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield Having children = Horror movie where your wife's the star.  Most disgusting thing I have ever witnessed.
 
 Awful, and anyone who tells you it was the highlight of life needs a serious fucking re-evalution of their mental health.
 
 The Child is a wonderful thing.  The process of having the kid is simply atrocious.  And the breastfeeding and everything else that "erath mothers" seem to love afterward is even more nauseating.  Nipples are for fun, not nourishment.  IMO.
 
 That medicine hasn't found a way to gestate children in a test tube is an embarrassment to mankind.  It's sexist if you ask me.  If men had kids, we'd have had that technology 50 years ago.
 
 An awful thing to watch a woman go through.  Nothing will obliterate any notion you might have had that an "involved" God exists, or that there's any intelligence in our design than watching that freak show.  I needed an 10 oz glass of straight liquor to recover after that episode.
 
 And I didn't even watch the real "delivery" part.  I stayed near her head.
 |  Hmmm.  Sounds like you should have had a shot before.  A bit tense, were you?
 
Next time, maybe it will be a "C" and you can watch as a man takes a sharp object to your wife.  Remember, you're there to comfort her.  It's not about you. |  
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		|  07-19-2007, 11:50 AM | #3171 |  
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		| Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy Hmmm.  Sounds like you should have had a shot before.  A bit tense, were you?
 
 Next time, maybe it will be a "C" and you can watch as a man takes a sharp object to your wife.  Remember, you're there to comfort her.  It's not about you.
 |  I know it's not about me.  That's my point.  It's fucking awful that she had to go through that shit.  Nobody should have to.  
 
Think of how much better life would be if we could raise kids in tubes and pick them up when they were done gestating.  The health care savings alone would be staggering.
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		|  07-19-2007, 11:51 AM | #3172 |  
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		| Originally posted by ABBAKiss I totally see where you are coming from, but to clarify:
 
 Rehab Boy is a different guy from the current BF, who has been sober more than 3 years.  That said, current BF was a CRACK addict.  Super classy.
 
 No one forced me to go to rehab.  I said "no, no, no."  I started going to AA because I was becoming a total drunk and cokehead and did not want to die like my little sister.  But I had been getting wasted after my AA meetings for about four months before current BF called me on it and I have been sober ever since.  It was our first date.  We have been dating, and I have been sober, four months and five days.  We have been living together since May 31.
 
 It doesn't bother me that he talks to his exes.  Hell, I talk to mine all the time.  What bothers me is his random and inappropriate mentions of them.  And though I did act out the scenario above I made it clear I was kidding but wanted to get my point accross, and I did.
 
 Re my mind?  I have no idea.  I was better off when I was a drunk!
 |  This sounds reasonable.  But does your current BF like dogs and is he willing to be the primary caregiver for the dog?  That seems important. |  
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		|  07-19-2007, 11:53 AM | #3173 |  
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		| Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield I know it's not about me.  That's my point.  It's fucking awful that she had to go through that shit.  Nobody should have to.
 
 Think of how much better life would be if we could raise kids in tubes and pick them up when they were done gestating.  The health care savings alone would be staggering.
 |  Why not wait to pick them up until they're potty-trained?
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		|  07-19-2007, 11:53 AM | #3174 |  
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		| Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield I know it's not about me.  That's my point.  It's fucking awful that she had to go through that shit.  Nobody should have to.
 
 Think of how much better life would be if we could raise kids in tubes and pick them up when they were done gestating.  The health care savings alone would be staggering.
 |  Doesn't sound like she minded going through it, though - does she think the pain was worth it?  
 
I got pretty queasy about the "C"; the natural childbirth was not particularly difficult, for me or her, but then, it was also notably quick. |  
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		|  07-19-2007, 11:54 AM | #3175 |  
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		| Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick This sounds reasonable.  But does your current BF like dogs and is he willing to be the primary caregiver for the dog?  That seems important.
 |  Oh yes.  I told him that he could have a puppy and the puppy could live with us but that I was not going to take care of it.  I am not going to buy food for it.  I am not going to feed it.  I am not going to walk it.  I am not going to train it.  I am not going to pet it.  If I feel like doing one or more of these things on occasion, I am free to do so.  But he is not to expect that I will.
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		|  07-19-2007, 11:54 AM | #3176 |  
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		| Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield I know it's not about me.  That's my point.  It's fucking awful that she had to go through that shit.  Nobody should have to.
 
 Think of how much better life would be if we could raise kids in tubes and pick them up when they were done gestating.  The health care savings alone would be staggering.
 |  Seb it's not that big of a deal.  It hurts, you push you get the baby out you are sore, you heal and then you forget which allows you to have baby number two.
 
And you have the souped up model, isn't your wife really into working out and bouncing back etc.?  I'm sure she's in fine form.
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		|  07-19-2007, 11:56 AM | #3177 |  
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		| Originally posted by Shape Shifter Why not wait to pick them up until they're potty-trained?
 |  No, no, no.  The post-potty trained time is the worst - because they can sometimes "forget" about the training at inopportune times and places.  A kid in diapers is easy - the mess is generally contained and can be managed in a relatively discrete and predictable way.
 
This is different than training a dog.  Dog's don't wear diapers. |  
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		|  07-19-2007, 11:56 AM | #3178 |  
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		| Originally posted by ABBAKiss Oh yes.  I told him that he could have a puppy and the puppy could live with us but that I was not going to take care of it.  I am not going to buy food for it.  I am not going to feed it.  I am not going to walk it.  I am not going to train it.  I am not going to pet it.  If I feel like doing one or more of these things on occasion, I am free to do so.  But he is not to expect that I will.
 |  I feel sorry for both you and the puppy.
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		|  07-19-2007, 11:57 AM | #3179 |  
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		| Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield I know it's not about me.  That's my point.  It's fucking awful that she had to go through that shit.  Nobody should have to.
 
 Think of how much better life would be if we could raise kids in tubes and pick them up when they were done gestating.  The health care savings alone would be staggering.
 |  It doesn't bother me when I watch in on Animal Planet.
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		| Originally posted by ABBAKiss I totally see where you are coming from, but to clarify:
 
 Rehab Boy is a different guy from the current BF, who has been sober more than 3 years.  That said, current BF was a CRACK addict.  Super classy.
 
 No one forced me to go to rehab.  I said "no, no, no."  I started going to AA because I was becoming a total drunk and cokehead and did not want to die like my little sister.  But I had been getting wasted after my AA meetings for about four months before current BF called me on it and I have been sober ever since.  It was our first date.  We have been dating, and I have been sober, four months and five days.  We have been living together since May 31.
 
 It doesn't bother me that he talks to his exes.  Hell, I talk to mine all the time.  What bothers me is his random and inappropriate mentions of them.  And though I did act out the scenario above I made it clear I was kidding but wanted to get my point accross, and I did.
 
 Re my mind?  I have no idea.  I was better off when I was a drunk!
 |   Based on this, it doesn't seem like he has the ability to make good decisions (uh...crack addict).  So I don't understand why you keep letting him influence your decisions.  Neither of you are supposed to be in a relationship, let alone in a relationship with each other (as recovering addicts), yet, there you are.  He fixed it so that he was in a tight spot when he knew his lease was expiring to basically force you to let him move in with you.  After a few months of living together, he wants kids.  Are you kidding?  You hate animals and you just bought the most annoying dog (for someone who hates animals) in the world.
 
Seriously, take two huge steps backwards.
 
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