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[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Question for the New Yorkers:

Where do you think the best cheesecake in NYC is?

We're in the city this weekend to pick up my daughter, who has been on an internship there. My teenage son has taken to making cheesecake at home, so he's looking for inspiration. (As to where we'll be, she's staying at an NYU dorm in the village and we're staying at a relatives' place in Chelsea; we're also going to be taking a jaunt down to the area around Sheepshead Bay and Marine Park to see the bridge she's been mostly working on, and we'll be up in the Inwood area a bit).

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Question for the New Yorkers:

Where do you think the best cheesecake in NYC is?

We're in the city this weekend to pick up my daughter, who has been on an internship there. My teenage son has taken to making cheesecake at home, so he's looking for inspiration. (As to where we'll be, she's staying at an NYU dorm in the village and we're staying at a relatives' place in Chelsea; we're also going to be taking a jaunt down to the area around Sheepshead Bay and Marine Park to see the bridge she's been mostly working on, and we'll be up in the Inwood area a bit).

"cheesecake" as in strip clubs?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

"cheesecake" as in strip clubs?

Dude, come on, I know you're not a tourist in NY anymore but just like a native, but people who only get to the city every blue moon want a bagel or bialey, some cheesecake, maybe a knish or some deli.

It's too bad NY doesn't have great pizza like Boston, but we can always hit New Haven on the way home for that.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Dude, come on, I know you're not a tourist in NY anymore but just like a native, but people who only get to the city every blue moon want a bagel or bialey, some cheesecake, maybe a knish or some deli.

It's too bad NY doesn't have great pizza like Boston, but we can always hit New Haven on the way home for that.

Pizza? There's no good pizza anywhere since Pompeii closed up.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Pizza? There's no good pizza anywhere since Pompeii closed up.

Have you gotten an outdoor pizza oven yet?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Have you gotten an outdoor pizza oven yet?

Not until the Italian government helps the people of Pompeii rebuild. Rome treats the south as non-citizens, no pizza ovens for me, until they do the right thing.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Dude, come on, I know you're not a tourist in NY anymore but just like a native, but people who only get to the city every blue moon want a bagel or bialey, some cheesecake, maybe a knish or some deli.

It's too bad NY doesn't have great pizza like Boston, but we can always hit New Haven on the way home for that.

As a lifetime New Yorker and pizza aficionado, I am firmly on Team New Haven.

For NY pizza, listen to Prez (who has NOT done Totonno, which is the best) but Johns of Bleeker, DIFara in Midwood, the original Grimaldi's by Brooklyn Bridge. The other Grimaldi chain locations are meh.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

As a lifetime New Yorker and pizza aficionado, I am firmly on Team New Haven.

For NY pizza, listen to Prez (who has NOT done Totonno, which is the best) but Johns of Bleeker, DIFara in Midwood, the original Grimaldi's by Brooklyn Bridge. The other Grimaldi chain locations are meh.

Roberta's. Although, I've heard good things about DiFara and Grimaldi's. I just ain't waitin' in no line for no pizza.

But here's the thing that people don't get. New York isn't about having the single best pizza pie in the world. It's about an abundance of great pizza within 5 minutes of wherever you are currently standing. You already know this, but here, it's a staple. You can get a great slice at a thousand places. If you want a great, sit-down experience, we've got it (as you've noted in your post), but when people rave about NY's pizza it's about abundant high quality.

TM

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Roberta's. Although, I've heard good things about DiFara and Grimaldi's. I just ain't waitin' in no line for no pizza.

But here's the thing that people don't get. New York isn't about having the single best pizza pie in the world. It's about an abundance of great pizza within 5 minutes of wherever you are currently standing. You already know this, but here, it's a staple. You can get a great slice at a thousand places. If you want a great, sit-down experience, we've got it (as you've noted in your post), but when people rave about NY's pizza it's about abundant high quality.

TM

Roberta's=too hipster for me.

I recently went to DiFara for the 1st time. Absolutely nothing to write home about. Very average. NOT worth waiting in line for (which I didn't, I just had a wake very nearby).

Grimaldi is the same. A little better than OK but I would never wait in line, and only go to the Coney Island location if Totonno is closed.

Totonno, Pepe and Sally's are the only ones I would wait in line for. But you generally don't have to.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Roberta's=too hipster for me.

Fair enough. But the pizza is the real deal. So fucking good.

TM

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Dude, come on, I know you're not a tourist in NY anymore but just like a native, but people who only get to the city every blue moon want a bagel or bialey, some cheesecake, maybe a knish or some deli.

Cheesecake. People in NY don't give a shit about cheesecake. That's a scam they've pulling on tourists since the 70s.

TM

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Cheesecake. People in NY don't give a shit about cheesecake. That's a scam they've pulling on tourists since the 70s.

TM

I don't call bullshit a lot but I call bullshit. Granted no one in NY eats it anymore except for more than 1x a year, but we very much want it, care about it, fantasize about it every day.

You could say the same thing about bagels or bialies. Knishes are a historical item no one gives a shit about except tourists.

I recently ate a knish at Yonah Schimell Knishery. It wasn't worth the calories I had to block out. It fucking sucked. And the place was crawling with tour groups.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

I don't call bullshit a lot but I call bullshit. Granted no one in NY eats it anymore except for more than 1x a year, but we very much want it, care about it, fantasize about it every day.

I love (fourless) cheesecake and make it at Thanksgiving every year. So I'm not saying people don't want it. I'm saying New York cheesecake isn't really a thing. It's just fucking cheesecake.

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

You could say the same thing about bagels or bialies. Knishes are a historical item no one gives a shit about except tourists.

I recently ate a knish at Yonah Schimell Knishery. It wasn't worth the calories I had to block out. It fucking sucked. And the place was crawling with tour groups.

Let me tell you something. I lament the disappearance of the hot dog guy/corner knish. Those things fucking filled you up and were fantastic. One of those butter-potato bricks could hold you over for a week. Extra mustard of course.

Damn, man. They're fucking gone. And the ones in the Jewish delis have never been as good. MSG used to do them really well too. Gone.



TM

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I love (fourless) cheesecake and make it at Thanksgiving every year. So I'm not saying people don't want it. I'm saying New York cheesecake isn't really a thing. It's just fucking cheesecake.

Probably but Jean Danet is the shit. Juniors a step better than most others.

Let me tell you something. I lament the disappearance of the hot dog guy/corner knish. Those things fucking filled you up and were fantastic. One of those butter-potato bricks could hold you over for a week. Extra mustard of course.

Damn, man. They're fucking gone. And the ones in the Jewish delis have never been as good. MSG used to do them really well too. Gone.



TM

I thought they were in random spots of MSG and Citifield but maybe gone (last year and this). The carts were the best. They used to leave those fuckers on the grill until the exterior was like a crust. And yes, I agree on the spicy mustard.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Damn, man. They're fucking gone. And the ones in the Jewish delis have never been as good.

TM

I saw a documentary about Jewish delis in the city. In 1920 there were 1000. Artie’s closed a few years back. Other than Katz I wouldn’t know where to go.