No Faith in the Moral Standards of the Players as a Group

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I actually had no problem running with the pain. The problem was not being able to walk without limping later.

Fine. Go pay someone to help you stretch. Don't listen to the old guy who has ran everyday for 40 years.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Fine. Go pay someone to help you stretch. Don't listen to the old guy who has ran everyday for 40 years.

I have run for years without pain and then I had acute heel pain that lasted for months after I stopped running. Does the doctor think that you should ignore any kind of pain, or just some pain? If the latter, how do you know which?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I have run for years without pain and then I had acute heel pain that lasted for months after I stopped running. Does the doctor think that you should ignore any kind of pain, or just some pain? If the latter, how do you know which?

Ummm yeah, that pain was because you were conflicted. Maybe was it while you were posting anti W nonsense and calling me a troll? Cuz that pain I can explain.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Ummm yeah, that pain was because you were conflicted. Maybe was it while you were posting anti W nonsense and calling me a troll? Cuz that pain I can explain.

There was no pain until last October, so somehow I made it through the W years and all the troll accusations without feeling conflicted. No regrets.

But seriously, are you supposed to ignore all pain? Or just some pain?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Whoa

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[Ty@50]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

There was no pain until last October, so somehow I made it through the W years and all the troll accusations without feeling conflicted. No regrets.

But seriously, are you supposed to ignore all pain? Or just some pain?

SMH with shame. Sorry Hank. FWIW I did read the book. Eventually.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Ty@50

SMH with shame. Sorry Hank. FWIW I did read the book. Eventually.

Ty@50 has never experienced this heel pain.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Fine. Go pay someone to help you stretch. Don't listen to the old guy who has ran everyday for 40 years.

I just discovered one can ski intermediates out west with a nasty mcl and meniscus tear. No black diamonds again (yet). But all in due time.

I’ve found in some instances just getting back on the horse forces the body to self repair. Brace helps too. Feels like cheating. But then, all short modern skis are kinda cheating.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I just discovered one can ski intermediates out west with a nasty mcl and meniscus tear. No black diamonds again (yet). But all in due time.

I’ve found in some instances just getting back on the horse forces the body to self repair. Brace helps too. Feels like cheating. But then, all short modern skis are kinda cheating.

Bindings are cheating too! Just use rope to attach your feet to a couple of rough hewn planks. And hike up. Earn your turns for godsake.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

Bindings are cheating too! Just use rope to attach your feet to a couple of rough hewn planks. And hike up. Earn your turns for godsake.

Remember skiing on the old long skis? That was hard shit. I can't even imagine taking a pair of old school 200s down a challenging run today.

That kid in a day glo turquoise Nevica ski jacket and Vuarnet shades, listening to Sabbath Volume 4 or Meddle from a Walkman in his jacket might've had more skills than the old man on carving skis today.

Echoes was such a great skiing tune... until it got to that whales-crying-in-the-deep part.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Remember skiing on the old long skis? That was hard shit. I can't even imagine taking a pair of old school 200s down a challenging run today.

That kid in a day glo turquoise Nevica ski jacket and Vuarnet shades, listening to Sabbath Volume 4 or Meddle from a Walkman in his jacket might've had more skills than the old man on carving skis today.

Echoes was such a great skiing tune... until it got to that whales-crying-in-the-deep part.

Oh yeah . . . although at the time it was just called skiing. I didn't ski for a while, during which period the short carvy skis came out, so I never had a timely direct comparison. But I do remember how damn hard it was on anything other than groomers with 200s.

And if you want vintage, ebay has what you're looking for:

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

Oh yeah . . . although at the time it was just called skiing. I didn't ski for a while, during which period the short carvy skis came out, so I never had a timely direct comparison. But I do remember how damn hard it was on anything other than groomers with 200s.

And if you want vintage, ebay has what you're looking for:

200s were too hard to manage. I got them because I knew someone who won them in a racing competition. Sold them to me for next to nothing. Difference between those and 190s was night and day.

The essential item I never owned was the Vuarnets with the leather sides in white. It was the only accessory for the multicolored Nevica. Completed the Aggressive Pastels Look.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Remember skiing on the old long skis? That was hard shit. I can't even imagine taking a pair of old school 200s down a challenging run today.

That kid in a day glo turquoise Nevica ski jacket and Vuarnet shades, listening to Sabbath Volume 4 or Meddle from a Walkman in his jacket might've had more skills than the old man on carving skis today.

Echoes was such a great skiing tune... until it got to that whales-crying-in-the-deep part.

I used to ski 195s. 178s now. It's like the difference between the tennis rackets McEnroe used in the early '80s and the ones I used in the early '90s.

I had a day glo Nevica ski jacket.

The most challenging thing about skiing today is trying to convince your kids not to bomb down the mountain (or hill here in the middle west).

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

I used to ski 195s. 178s now. It's like the difference between the tennis rackets McEnroe used in the early '80s and the ones I used in the early '90s.

I had a day glo Nevica ski jacket.

The most challenging thing about skiing today is trying to convince your kids not to bomb down the mountain (or hill here in the middle west).

I did an "agony of defeat" fall not too long ago. Went end over end, lost helmet, and one ski would not unlock. Did that for about 100 yards.

When I finally stopped, little kids were skiing all around my near corpse, leering at me to see if I was alive. Mine likes to ski trees. Went through the woods, popped out about 50 yards ahead of me, started yelling for me to get up, with no idea what had just happened to me.

Wiping out as a young kid is a good lesson with minimal pain, as you don't weigh much or have far to fall. Wiping out at 190 lbs and turning into a human snowball on a fairly extreme slope is another matter. I've a healthy respect for my age and limitations as a result.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

The most challenging thing about skiing today is trying to convince your kids not to bomb down the mountain (or hill here in the middle west).

You haven't seen a challenge until their friends come over and play on your lawn.