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Old Today, 03:26 PM   #2821
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Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!

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we’ve asked white people to care about women. They said fuck off.
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H. L. Mencken: 'Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.'

It may be as simple as this:

1. Telling people "The economy is great and you're dumb if you think otherwise" (based on GDP) while ignoring the way it impacting different populations and areas differently, isn't wise.

2. Telling people they're racists if they don't disagree with you isn't wise.

3. Taking the votes of minority communities for granted isn't wise.

4. Figuring you can scare people into voting for your candidate isn't wise.

5. Figuring you can shame people into voting for your candidate isn't wise.

6. Running on a platform of nothing more than, "I'm not Trump" works during Covid, but perhaps not otherwise.

This is a dark event. But its causes stem from a whole lot of arrogance and incompetence.

Remember this when your first inclination is to blame this all exclusively on racism and sexism. While those are of course partial causes, they are small fractions of a much more significant whole.

And while this Divider in Chief does his dividing, recall, what brought us here in significant part is grievance and identity politics. If both parties continue to practice those strategies, the country is fucked in a manner far worse than what Trump might cause. Right now, the media and political pundits on both sides are talking about the new divide and conquer angle to acquire eyeballs and support - Men vs. Women. Don't let them do it. Don't be the sucker at the table.
Nah, I think you were right the first time. It's backlash to "woke." Which is to say, annoyance at being asked to care about people they didn't want to care about.

Whether that is racism or sexism is a thing we've gone around in circles on, but I do think it is a huge part of what was driving things.

That an how much of our information ecosystem we've let be controlled by the oligarchs who did not want their power challenged in the ways the Biden admin was challenging it.
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1. Telling people "The economy is great and you're dumb if you think otherwise" (based on GDP) while ignoring the way it impacting different populations and areas differently, isn't wise.
That wasn't the message I saw. I saw she will change things up, fix stuff. Like one of the late night talk show hosts asked "aren't you part of the administration already?"
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Nah, I think you were right the first time. It's backlash to "woke." Which is to say, annoyance at being asked to care about people they didn't want to care about.

Whether that is racism or sexism is a thing we've gone around in circles on, but I do think it is a huge part of what was driving things.

That an how much of our information ecosystem we've let be controlled by the oligarchs who did not want their power challenged in the ways the Biden admin was challenging it.
I think you're both wrong. It's $7.99 for a box of Frosted Flakes.

I personally think Harris played her hand pretty well. With the way she came to be the candidate, she didn't want to split with Biden on anything major and risk a rupture within her party. But, that means being the party of $7.99 Frosted Flakes.
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Re: If...

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H. L. Mencken: 'Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.'

It may be as simple as this:

1. Telling people "The economy is great and you're dumb if you think otherwise" (based on GDP) while ignoring the way it impacting different populations and areas differently, isn't wise.
I think a lot of us are in an economic bubble where we can mostly absorb increased prices of groceries, fast food etc. - it's annoying, but it doesn't really change how we live (although I still bitch about the cost of going out to dinner).

I think there are less than us than we think.
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