LawTalkers  

Go Back   LawTalkers > General Discussion > Politics

» Site Navigation
 > FAQ
» Online Users: 3,309
1 members and 3,308 guests
Hank Chinaski
Most users ever online was 6,698, 04-04-2025 at 04:12 AM.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-07-2025, 01:25 PM   #3001
Did you just call me Coltrane?
Registered User
 
Did you just call me Coltrane?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Throwing a kettle over a pub
Posts: 14,749
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adder View Post
I do not understand why this is a surprise to so many people. We have been saying this about him for a decade.
He is mentally ill. Something is wrong with his medulla oblongata.
__________________
No no no, that's not gonna help. That's not gonna help and I'll tell you why: It doesn't unbang your Mom.
Did you just call me Coltrane? is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2025, 10:46 AM   #3002
Adder
I am beyond a rank!
 
Adder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 17,167
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? View Post
He is mentally ill. Something is wrong with his medulla oblongata.
The "groceries is an old-fashioned word" thing is telling to me. He's just a series of catch phrases with zero substance behind them.
Adder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2025, 05:26 PM   #3003
Tyrone Slothrop
Moderasaurus Rex
 
Tyrone Slothrop's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,069
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adder View Post
I do not understand why this is a surprise to so many people. We have been saying this about him for a decade.
People don't believe things they don't want to believe.
__________________
“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
Tyrone Slothrop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2025, 02:18 PM   #3004
sebastian_dangerfield
Moderator
 
sebastian_dangerfield's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Monty Capuletti's gazebo
Posts: 26,216
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adder View Post
I do not understand why this is a surprise to so many people. We have been saying this about him for a decade.
If you believe the view that he is transactional and self-interested, the tariffs make no sense. They actually harm his own businesses and piss off the donor class.

The consensus on him for most of those ten years has been that he is self-interested and driven by desire for personal wealth.

It appears that was wrong, or he has changed. It appears now that he really thinks one can materially revive manufacturing here. This may be senility.

Trump has an ideological core of a sort. It seems to be a mix of McKinley, Hoover, and Teddy Roosevelt. It's Trump's Early 1900s, and we're just living in it.
__________________
All is for the best in the best of all possible worlds.
sebastian_dangerfield is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2025, 02:25 PM   #3005
sebastian_dangerfield
Moderator
 
sebastian_dangerfield's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Monty Capuletti's gazebo
Posts: 26,216
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop View Post
People don't believe things they don't want to believe.
Necessarily, this also means people believe what they want to believe. On both points, this is well done: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/10/o...g-tariffs.html

You might think a large swath of the world has critical thinking skills. If you're smart enough to acquire a graduate degree, you're exposed to people with them most of the time. But even among the "smart," one must notice, this skill is becoming less ubiquitous. It's been declining for years, for a number of reasons.

Imagine the deficit among the hoi polloi. It's horrifying.
__________________
All is for the best in the best of all possible worlds.
sebastian_dangerfield is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2025, 03:34 PM   #3006
Tyrone Slothrop
Moderasaurus Rex
 
Tyrone Slothrop's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,069
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!

Does anyone know anything about the law of contempt? Is there any reason that a federal judge could not impose a fine on a government official who is in contempt, and structure the fine so that it increases over time with noncompliance?

eta: ChatGPT thinks this possible, but I'm not sure whether to trust it with this kind of question.
__________________
“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar

Last edited by Tyrone Slothrop; 04-15-2025 at 04:01 PM..
Tyrone Slothrop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2025, 01:31 PM   #3007
Did you just call me Coltrane?
Registered User
 
Did you just call me Coltrane?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Throwing a kettle over a pub
Posts: 14,749
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop View Post
Does anyone know anything about the law of contempt? Is there any reason that a federal judge could not impose a fine on a government official who is in contempt, and structure the fine so that it increases over time with noncompliance?

eta: ChatGPT thinks this possible, but I'm not sure whether to trust it with this kind of question.
I think we're going to find out very soon.
__________________
No no no, that's not gonna help. That's not gonna help and I'll tell you why: It doesn't unbang your Mom.
Did you just call me Coltrane? is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2025, 06:53 PM   #3008
Tyrone Slothrop
Moderasaurus Rex
 
Tyrone Slothrop's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,069
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? View Post
I think we're going to find out very soon.
The Executive can ignore a court order to, e.g., admit a reporter to a press pool, but if a court orders monetary sanctions, I wonder if those become self-executing in a way that causes problems for the individuals involved. E.g., a court hits an administration official with a $25K fine. The administration surely will not devote resources to collecting on that obligation, but if the court creates a financial obligation that is cognizable in the way that judgment or lien would be, it's not clear to me that the administration can do anything to make it go away, leaving to officials to worry about future governments that would collect the debts.
__________________
“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
Tyrone Slothrop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 10:13 AM   #3009
Hank Chinaski
Proud Holder-Post 200,000
 
Hank Chinaski's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Corner Office
Posts: 86,139
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? View Post
He is mentally ill. Something is wrong with his medulla oblongata.
So your point is that his behavior is normal given his abnormalities?
__________________
I will not suffer a fool- but I do seem to read a lot of their posts
Hank Chinaski is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 12:06 PM   #3010
Did you just call me Coltrane?
Registered User
 
Did you just call me Coltrane?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Throwing a kettle over a pub
Posts: 14,749
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski View Post
So your point is that his behavior is normal given his abnormalities?
Yes. Completely normal.

Call me on my burner and we can discuss further.
__________________
No no no, that's not gonna help. That's not gonna help and I'll tell you why: It doesn't unbang your Mom.
Did you just call me Coltrane? is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 05:57 PM   #3011
Hank Chinaski
Proud Holder-Post 200,000
 
Hank Chinaski's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Corner Office
Posts: 86,139
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!

Does anybody know what type $$ he is freezing for the schools? Is it competitive research programs? I’m just surprised at the huge imbalance in what schools have been getting. My memory is that when I was hired at Commerce I was told the Gov can’t weigh school ranking in hiring, at least for Civil Service- I mean obviously the SCOTUS has to be from Harvard, or Yale, but otherwise.

It seems contrary to throw so much to elite school relative to “lesser.” And for Harvard to accept so much more seems the opposite of DEI.
__________________
I will not suffer a fool- but I do seem to read a lot of their posts
Hank Chinaski is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 06:39 PM   #3012
Tyrone Slothrop
Moderasaurus Rex
 
Tyrone Slothrop's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,069
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski View Post
Does anybody know what type $$ he is freezing for the schools? Is it competitive research programs? I’m just surprised at the huge imbalance in what schools have been getting. My memory is that when I was hired at Commerce I was told the Gov can’t weigh school ranking in hiring, at least for Civil Service- I mean obviously the SCOTUS has to be from Harvard, or Yale, but otherwise.

It seems contrary to throw so much to elite school relative to “lesser.” And for Harvard to accept so much more seems the opposite of DEI.
I thought it was money for competitive research grants, mostly in the sciences. I'm not sure what imbalances you are seeing, but would assume that non-elite research universities are getting much more money than elite liberal arts colleges. For example, I'm sure the University of Alabama gets much more money than Wesleyan does. (But I also understand that GOP legislators are working behind the scenes to keep money flowing to state schools in red states, like the University of Alabama.)
__________________
“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
Tyrone Slothrop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 07:58 PM   #3013
Hank Chinaski
Proud Holder-Post 200,000
 
Hank Chinaski's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Corner Office
Posts: 86,139
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop View Post
I thought it was money for competitive research grants, mostly in the sciences. I'm not sure what imbalances you are seeing, but would assume that non-elite research universities are getting much more money than elite liberal arts colleges. For example, I'm sure the University of Alabama gets much more money than Wesleyan does. (But I also understand that GOP legislators are working behind the scenes to keep money flowing to state schools in red states, like the University of Alabama.)
Wesleyan?

It’s hard to tell how much each school gets but Alabama, for all that GOP pushing, doesn’t seem near 1 Billion.

And all the press? How do we think the poor voters who were reliably D votes, but bailed in 2024, or worse voted for Trump, how do you think they feel when hearing the Government gives Harvard $2,000,000,000? Harvard gets 2 B?
__________________
I will not suffer a fool- but I do seem to read a lot of their posts

Last edited by Hank Chinaski; Yesterday at 08:20 PM..
Hank Chinaski is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Today, 10:42 AM   #3014
sebastian_dangerfield
Moderator
 
sebastian_dangerfield's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Monty Capuletti's gazebo
Posts: 26,216
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop View Post
I thought it was money for competitive research grants, mostly in the sciences. I'm not sure what imbalances you are seeing, but would assume that non-elite research universities are getting much more money than elite liberal arts colleges. For example, I'm sure the University of Alabama gets much more money than Wesleyan does. (But I also understand that GOP legislators are working behind the scenes to keep money flowing to state schools in red states, like the University of Alabama.)
You are correct based on what I've read. Trump's withholding is, like his blunt DOGE job cuts, a chainsaw where a scalpel is needed.

Cutting hard science research grants is punishing the people at Harvard who are likely the least political, if political at all. It harms all of us who benefit from medical and scientific research to spite a small cadre of politically bizarre people.

A better approach would be to assess all the research that is being funded and pull the dollars for all the programs tied to politically problematic professors and student organizations. (I personally think that is also a bad policy, and probably unconstitutional, but for purposes of this thought exercise, I'm simply trying to find a compromise position that protects hard science research.) But this would take thinking, and analysis, and those don't comport with a "break things, make a mess, then try to get a 'good deal' navigating the carnage" approach Trump seems to be taking toward everything.
__________________
All is for the best in the best of all possible worlds.
sebastian_dangerfield is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Today, 05:16 PM   #3015
Hank Chinaski
Proud Holder-Post 200,000
 
Hank Chinaski's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Corner Office
Posts: 86,139
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!

Quote:
Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield View Post
You are correct based on what I've read. Trump's withholding is, like his blunt DOGE job cuts, a chainsaw where a scalpel is needed.

Cutting hard science research grants is punishing the people at Harvard who are likely the least political, if political at all. It harms all of us who benefit from medical and scientific research to spite a small cadre of politically bizarre people.

A better approach would be to assess all the research that is being funded and pull the dollars for all the programs tied to politically problematic professors and student organizations. (I personally think that is also a bad policy, and probably unconstitutional, but for purposes of this thought exercise, I'm simply trying to find a compromise position that protects hard science research.) But this would take thinking, and analysis, and those don't comport with a "break things, make a mess, then try to get a 'good deal' navigating the carnage" approach Trump seems to be taking toward everything.
So to cut gov spending, set up a department to evaluate research to determine what to cut?
__________________
I will not suffer a fool- but I do seem to read a lot of their posts
Hank Chinaski is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0.1

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:25 PM.