Fashion Board 2-3-04 to 3-5-04

[Fugee]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I asked before...won't someone please outline how things could result in "needing"to work Xmas.

brc said she almost had to work xmas- can someone just explain what could possibly require this. other than a huge ego partner yelling that you have to, and you doing it to prove something.

In addition to the tax/accounting reasons requiring a 12/31 closing mentioned by other posters, there are also the completely unreasonable demands of clients and senior partners. If the CEO of a big client is going on a cruise on 12/27 and wants the deal to be closed before he goes, the partner is going to do whatever it takes to satisfy the client including making an associate work Christmas Day. If by chance the associate does not celebrate Christmas, the partner probably won't even feel bad about it though there is no guarantee the partner will feel bad even if the associate does celebrate Christmas. If the client is sufficiently important, the partner may even work on Christmas Day emself.

In addition to vacations, clients have made even more rEdiculous timing demands. The head cheese Travelers Group once reamed out his lawyers because they were not able to get a registration statement filed in time to have the red herring dated the date of his wedding anniversary.

I've had deals close with spit and tape and promises to fix things up in an amendment because the clients on both sides to a deal have set an arbitrary and too short deadline for closing and in a sick game of chicken, neither one wants to blink and say it can't be done. And when both sets of lawyers agree it is insane and try to talk their clients into changing the arbitrary deadline, they both get the "if you can't handle our work, we'll have to look for a firm that can" talk. Sometimes law really really sucks.

[ltl/fb]

Every time I see the name "Vodafone," "Kodachrome" starts running through my head. Drives me nuts. Thought I'd impose it on the rest of you (or at least some of the rest of you).

Good night.

[Jack Manfred]

YOU ARE RULE 20(a)! You are Rule 20, an important part of the Federal Rules' policy of permissive joinder. You are designed specifically to allow as many parties in an action as can be tried efficiently, and you'll include someone as long as there is some factual overlap between a claim involving them and the rest of the case at hand. You are popular, out-going, and are never far from friends. However, your overly gregarious nature and magnanimous approach to all things cause your closest friends to wonder that, even when you're surrounded by your compatriots, there is a part of you that feels cold and very alone.

[Dave]

Distributor says Paris Hilton co-directed sex tape, is co-owner of copyright

It's particularly charming that CNN refers to Solomon's occupation as "video entrepenuer".

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I understand this is the justification, but no partner is doing fuck-all the 26th, and there is no deal so big you can't get ahead/catchup the 23,24, 26,27; is there.

It happens all the time. If you're working on three deals that all have to close year-end and two of them are for the same partner, best believe you will be in the office any and every day the partner pleases. Granted, this has never happened at my firm (that I know of), but I know people who have gone through it. So, let it go.

TM

[pony_trekker]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
best believe you will be in the office any and every day the partner pleases.
TM

My response "Umm, no."

I have worked just about every holiday under the sun but Christmas day (as well as Easter Sunday) are the two days I absofuckinglutely refuse to. For religious reasons. And Superbowl Sunday. No job is worth eternity in Hell.

You have to draw a line somewhere. Some draw it at sucking partner dick; others draw it at sucking partner shitdick. I draw it at these 3 religious holidays.

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
It happens all the time. If you're working on three deals that all have to close year-end and two of them are for the same partner, best believe you will be in the office any and every day the partner pleases. Granted, this has never happened at my firm (that I know of), but I know people who have gone through it. So, let it go.

TM

I've gone through it. Two Christmases ago, I was working on one deal invloving parties in California, NY, and London while simultaneously working on a second deal invloving parties in California, NY, London, Amsterdam, and Belgium. Each deal needed to close by 12/31 to avoid certain tax issues, both in the foreign countries and the US, and both deals needed to close by 12/31 because the public companies involved wanted to be able to announce the deal with their quarterly filings.

I not only worked on Christmas, but actually never left my office from 12/24 until sometime early in the morning New Years Day. I showered there, I ate there, I slept there...my secretary made an emergency run to my house to drop off my laundry and pick up clean clothes. I only saw my husband if he came by bearing food.

It was unpleasant.

[Aloha Mr. Learned Hand]

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
I've gone through it. Two Christmases ago, I was working on one deal invloving parties in California, NY, and London while simultaneously working on a second deal invloving parties in California, NY, London, Amsterdam, and Belgium. Each deal needed to close by 12/31 to avoid certain tax issues, both in the foreign countries and the US, and both deals needed to close by 12/31 because the public companies involved wanted to be able to announce the deal with their quarterly filings.

I not only worked on Christmas, but actually never left my office from 12/24 until sometime early in the morning New Years Day. I showered there, I ate there, I slept there...my secretary made an emergency run to my house to drop off my laundry and pick up clean clothes. I only saw my husband if he came by bearing food.

It was unpleasant.

Holy crap. Thank God for litigation (I can't believe I'm saying that)... Though we get the occasional months-long trial, at least our schedules are tied to the whims of judges who for the most part don't even set foot in the office the last half of December... I've had several early January trials, but even then we busted our asses so we wouldn't have to be there on holidays.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by barely_legal
This board doesn't have nearly enough hate on it lately (the celebrity death pool is morbid, but not hate-y enough) so I'm going to share some of my hatred with all of you because I'm benelovent like that.

I hate hate hate vanity plates and the people who own them. They are stupid (the people and the plates). I don't know a single person with a vanity plate that isn't 1) an asshole 2) insecure or 3) annoying as shit.

My friend got upset when I told her how much I hate people who have vanity plates and started explaing to me that they are not really bad b/c she had one when she was a teenager and it had her pets' names on it! awwwww. That didn't make me hate vanity plate owners any less, but I lost almost all respect for my friend. Seriously, what the hell does a person need to communicate on license plate? What is so godawful important that you are willing to pay money to tell every random driver on the street about? If you're advertising your business, whatever, it's still stupid but at least there's kind of a point. But why does someone who drives a "68 Volkswagon need a license plate that says "MY 68 BUG"?. Jesus Christ.

So, how many people on this board did I just call stupid?

That's not a rant. Have you been living in a cave alone for the past 30 years? Its been recognized as common knowledge that if you have a vanity plate, you are cosmically defective in just about every regard a human can be measured. How in the fuck could you not know this. If you must rant, pick a novel subject. Or just go with why fat people suck.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
I've gone through it. Two Christmases ago, I was working on one deal invloving parties in California, NY, and London while simultaneously working on a second deal invloving parties in California, NY, London, Amsterdam, and Belgium. Each deal needed to close by 12/31 to avoid certain tax issues, both in the foreign countries and the US, and both deals needed to close by 12/31 because the public companies involved wanted to be able to announce the deal with their quarterly filings.

I not only worked on Christmas, but actually never left my office from 12/24 until sometime early in the morning New Years Day. I showered there, I ate there, I slept there...my secretary made an emergency run to my house to drop off my laundry and pick up clean clothes. I only saw my husband if he came by bearing food.

It was unpleasant.

Like clockwork, opposing counsel will file flurries of motions just before each holiday, as though I'm too stupid to just call the clerk and request an extension to respond. To date, no judge has denied my request. I pushed a trial around for about a year recently. The way to do it is to appeal to the Judge's laziness. If you give a judge even a hint the case may settle in the interim, or that he'll somehow not have to decide a complex motion for summary judgment, you can move court dates all over the goddamned place.

[barely_legal]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
That's not a rant. Have you been living in a cave alone for the past 30 years? Its been recognized as common knowledge that if you have a vanity plate, you are cosmically defective in just about every regard a human can be measured. How in the fuck could you not know this. If you must rant, pick a novel subject. Or just go with why fat people suck.

So sorry. Next time I will try to be more creative and less repetitive. Maybe a rant about how being a lawyer sucks and all lawyers (except me, of course) are uptight humorless assholes?

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by barely_legal
So sorry. Next time I will try to be more creative and less repetitive. Maybe a rant about how being a lawyer sucks and all lawyers (except me, of course) are uptight humorless assholes?

No no no. How religion is stupid and and that all religions have such fundamental flaws that anyone should be able to see through them.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
No no no. How religion is stupid and and that all religions have such fundamental flaws that anyone should be able to see through them.

You know, in the end, any of the foul truths we don't want to hear will do just fine.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Like clockwork, opposing counsel will file flurries of motions just before each holiday, as though I'm too stupid to just call the clerk and request an extension to respond.

I file flurries of motions before the holiday so I don't have to work on them over the holiday. And I'd be happy to agree to an extension if you call me, too. Unless you're an asshole, in which case I'll file on the day that, under the applicable rules, will maximize the number of weekends and holidays during the appointed time period for a response.

[Anne Elk]

Link to Boston Herald item According to the Herald (citing the Sun), Kimberly Stewart had her implants removed and gave them to Jack Osborne

The Sun reports 19-year-old Jack is so taken with the gift, that he's put them on display in a glass case in his bedroom

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For the record, if anyone has a penile implant, when you get it removed I do not want it.