Politics: Onward from New Hampshire - Page 216

bilmore · 03-10-2004, 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Well evolution disproves her existence.

Only if she has an appendix.

God · 03-10-2004, 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
Only if she has an appendix.

I have no appendix. Whether it was removed after becoming infected or whether I never had one at all is something for you, Not Me, to find out in the next world, not in this one.

edited to correct punctuation because, well, how many times do you get to edit God's posts? -- T.S.

sgtclub · 03-10-2004, 06:18 PM

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WASHINGTON - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry (news - web sites) on Wednesday called for deeper tax cuts for the middle class than proposed by President Bush (news - web sites) and described his Republican critics as "the most crooked ... lying group I've ever seen."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...el_pr/kerry_21

Secret_Agent_Man · 03-10-2004, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
There's a joke about marriage in here somewhere.

And freezers, don't forget the freezer.

S_A_M

Tyrone Slothrop · 03-10-2004, 06:27 PM

With the way that Kerry's record has been misrepresented recently, I'm not surprised that he took offense.

Not Me · 03-10-2004, 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Well evolution disproves her existence.

No. Evolution is not inconsistent with the existence of a higher being.

sgtclub · 03-10-2004, 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
With the way that Kerry's record has been misrepresented recently, I'm not surprised that he took offense.

Misrepresented how? The "flip flop" attacks?

Tyrone Slothrop · 03-10-2004, 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
Misrepresented how? The "flip flop" attacks?

For example, the piece in the New York Post (?) with his alleged praise for Yasser Arafat. Or the Bush attack on him for allegedly wanting to cut intel funding. Both misrepresented what was going on.

How about the GOP thing about North Korea supporting Kerry? That stakes out new high ground.

edited to add links

sgtclub · 03-10-2004, 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
For example, the piece in the New York Post (?) with his alleged praise for Yasser Arafat. Or the Bush attack on him for allegedly wanting to cut intel funding. Both misrepresented what was going on.

How about the GOP thing about North Korea supporting Kerry? That stakes out new high ground.

I'm not familiar with the Yasser thing. But is it not true that he wanted to cut intel funding? And NK is supportive of JK, isn't it?

ltl/fb · 03-10-2004, 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
And NK is supportive of JK, isn't it?

yeah, and I'm sure he solicited their support directly. I bet 9 out of 10 neo-Nazis support Bush over Kerry . . .

Not Me · 03-10-2004, 06:53 PM

Another potential evolutionary biological explanation for homosexuality is that the heteozygous state has a survival advantage. For instance, to phenotypically express homosexuality, the individual must be genotypically homozygous for the genetic determinants. Individuals who are heterozygous are phenotypically heterosexuals but have some sort of reproductive advantage over those who have no copies of the genetic determinants of homosexuality.

This would be like sickle cell, whch is a homozygous recessive disease. Certainly being homozygous for the trait is deterimental to your ability to reproduce. Yet these genes remain in our gene pool at a relatively high frequency for deleterious traits.

Usually when that is the case, there is a survival advantage for the heterozygous state. That accounts for the relatively high frequency of the deleterious gene. With sickle cell, the heterozygous state is more resistent to malarial infections and that conferred the survival advantage that keeps the gene in the gene pool in those populations at risk for malaria.

There may be some reproductive advantage to being heterozygous for the genetic determinants of homosexuality. Maybe those people are who are heterozygous are better able to relate to the opposite sex. Maybe a male who is heterozygous is a more nurturing father.

Tyrone Slothrop · 03-10-2004, 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
I'm not familiar with the Yasser thing.

Good, because I can't figure out where I saw the relevant passage from his book excerpted.

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But is it not true that he wanted to cut intel funding?

Read the Slate piece I linked to above.

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And NK is supportive of JK, isn't it?

Cite, please. And something other than a GOP press release, if you would.

The Larry Davis Experience · 03-10-2004, 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
And something other than a GOP press release, if you would.

I guess that means that he won't be able to cite the one where the RNC says North Korea Sees Kerry As More Susceptible To Extortion.

How's that for tone?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 03-10-2004, 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by Not Me
Who believes in god?

Well, not these unchaste virginity-pledge breakers (Ny Times)

sgtclub · 03-10-2004, 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Good, because I can't figure out where I saw the relevant passage from his book excerpted.

Read the Slate piece I linked to above.

Cite, please. And something other than a GOP press release, if you would.

Sounds like you are correct on the intel*, but I don't think it's any different than saying that Bush "wants to benefit the rich at the expense of the poor" re tax cuts, and is certainly not as bad as "the war was concocted in Texas for political gain" etc.

The NK support is not as concrete as "I, Kim, support JFK" but from what I've read, the government run newspapers have been, by all accounts, very deferential to Kerry.

*subject to my further investigation