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Old 05-19-2004, 10:17 AM   #1741
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Funny you should mention this. I was flipping through the paper this morning and saw that picture, and thought, "Hmmm. There's a look that mr.dtb will be sporting sometime never!" (In fact, I cannot imagine a guy who could pull that look off less capably than mr.dtb. And that's a good thing.)
Yeah, right. I bet you two are quite the fetching couple. Him in his paisley neckerchief and you with your sweater tied around your neck.

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Old 05-19-2004, 10:18 AM   #1742
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Dissenting from PJ, I am also wearing a sport jacket today. I am hoping I do not look like someone forced me to wear it to dress up for my kid's piano recital, or whatever. I suppose, if I had the cojones, I would post a pic of my current outfit and let the FB stand in judgment.
No worries there. Nobody will be able to stop laughing at your pink paisley neckerchief long enough to care that you're wearing a sport coat.

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Old 05-19-2004, 10:19 AM   #1743
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Is there a shortage of mirrors in society?
Yes, thank god.

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Old 05-19-2004, 10:19 AM   #1744
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Pleated pants made with really good fabric (suits, expensive pants) will drape nicely, but pleated Dockers/Gap khakis type pleated pants will balloon.

My favorite is pleated jean shorts on women with double asses (one in front, one in back). Its just so fucking wrong.

Is there a shortage of mirrors in society?
You know, I'm not 100% clear where you stand on pleated pants. Could you clarify further?
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Old 05-19-2004, 10:21 AM   #1745
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Very few men can wear a sports jacket without looking like someone's awkward football coach forced by his wife to dress up for once, or a country club khaki gin-and-tonic drone. But done right, they are very sexy.
So often, the sport jacket is worn by someone who can't quite commit to the appropriate attire. The coach can't quite deal with himself in a suit; the country club drone feels naked without a jacket of some sort. I think the occassions upon which a sport jacket is more appropriate than a suit (or simply going casual) are increasingly rare. The feet have been swept out from under the sport jacket: where people used to were one, it now looks stuffy.

In law school, I used to watch I Spy (you know, Bill Cosby) all the time (Howard University PBS). One of the most interesting parts was their dress. In one episode, they changed into sport coats to go to a carnival.

I have two sport jackets, and I'm lucky if each gets worn once a year. Suits are just so much easier to deal with. I must spend 30 minutes trying to pick out pants each time I wear them. OTOH, I'll probably end up wearing one this weekend. Better start thinking about the pants now.
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Old 05-19-2004, 10:22 AM   #1746
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Pleated pants made with really good fabric (suits, expensive pants) will drape nicely, but pleated Dockers/Gap khakis type pleated pants will balloon.

My favorite is pleated jean shorts on women with double asses (one in front, one in back). Its just so fucking wrong.

Is there a shortage of mirrors in society?
I think PLF and I were referrring to pleated wool pants, not J.Crew khakis. Pants that, if they had a matching jacket, would be a suit, non?

Where the fuck have you seen the pleated jean shorts look? Good god. And don't tell me you don't like the hot slutty white-trash girl in the underwear-shaped jean shorts. We all do. We all know she's slutty white trash, but that's not stopping us from looking (or caring). Or feeling like we're in a Warrant video.
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Old 05-19-2004, 10:23 AM   #1747
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I have no doubt that you look just lovely.
Oh you!!!! I am TOTALLY blushing right now!!!!!:blush: Thanks for the compliment!!!!!
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Old 05-19-2004, 10:23 AM   #1748
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Gimme surf shorts and t-shirts and flip flops (summer) or jeans and whetever or cotton pants and a shirt (winter/fall) or a suit, but fuck the "sportcoat look". Its a goddamned abomination.
Surely your busy social life finds you in situations somewhere between "in court" and "at the beach." Do you wear a business suit when you go out to a nice (not formal) restaurant with your friends?

Sportscoats (and I'm not talking about the blue blazer with gold plastic buttons your mom bought for you before fraternity rush) are versatile and would enliven what sounds to me to be a wardrobe that screams, "I don't know what to wear, so put me in a suit and I oughtta be ok." Wearing either suits or board shorts is a copout. Anybody's wife can pick out a nice HF and we all have the surf shorts despite the best efforts of the fairer sex to rid us of them. Pick up a few sportcoats and start experimenting. They look great with neckerchiefs.
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Old 05-19-2004, 10:23 AM   #1749
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Where the fuck have you seen the pleated jean shorts look?
Mom jeans. "Because you're not a woman any more, you're a mom."
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Old 05-19-2004, 10:24 AM   #1750
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Pleated pants made with really good fabric (suits, expensive pants) will drape nicely, but pleated Dockers/Gap khakis type pleated pants will balloon.

My favorite is pleated jean shorts on women with double asses (one in front, one in back). Its just so fucking wrong.

Is there a shortage of mirrors in society?
Jean shorts will at least somewhat cover lumps from the view of innocent passersby. Far worse are the stretch pants and stretch tops that, contrary to popular belief, do not look make one look more slender by wrapping around each individual roll of flesh.
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Old 05-19-2004, 10:24 AM   #1751
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So often, the sport jacket is worn by someone who can't quite commit to the appropriate attire. The coach can't quite deal with himself in a suit; the country club drone feels naked without a jacket of some sort. I think the occassions upon which a sport jacket is more appropriate than a suit (or simply going casual) are increasingly rare. The feet have been swept out from under the sport jacket: where people used to were one, it now looks stuffy.

In law school, I used to watch I Spy (you know, Bill Cosby) all the time (Howard University PBS). One of the most interesting parts was their dress. In one episode, they changed into sport coats to go to a carnival.

I have two sport jackets, and I'm lucky if each gets worn once a year. Suits are just so much easier to deal with. I must spend 30 minutes trying to pick out pants each time I wear them. OTOH, I'll probably end up wearing one this weekend. Better start thinking about the pants now.
Just remember the golden rule, if you wear a sportcoat with jeans, you must either (a) be a middle aged tycoon, or (b) have a pony tail.

Either way, you aren't getting laid unless you pay for it, so I advise sparing yourself the embarrassment and staying home and ordering in an escort.
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Old 05-19-2004, 10:25 AM   #1752
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Please remove the buttplug before going to work. it makes you cranky.
I think I invented that.

For those who wish to wear the buttplug to work, there are some nifty rubber pants with which to wear them on some website that I can't remember the name of. Apparently specially made to wear with such accessories.
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Old 05-19-2004, 10:26 AM   #1753
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As to why I watch Today, I turn it on because it has the local weather. I want to know whether I'll need to carry a parisole to the office.
I hope when you carry your parasol, you pair it with a snazzy neckerchief. I'll bet that's a really good look for you.
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Old 05-19-2004, 10:28 AM   #1754
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I have decided to replace Bruce Springsteen with Katie Couric as number one on my list of "History's Greatest Monsters."
For those who forgot how this whole thing works, this is the part where I chime in and declare that Katie Couric is a hottie, and that Bruce is a poet, dammit, and that sebby is a moron for thinking otherwise.

Then sebby will counter with something slamming perkiness and Sandy and the beach and the night and the factory, and call me a washed-up, pleated-pants-wearing, gated-subdivision-dwelling, domestic-beer-drinking suburbanite.

Then we hug, and sing kumbaya.
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Old 05-19-2004, 10:29 AM   #1755
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Surely your busy social life finds you in situations somewhere between "in court" and "at the beach." Do you wear a business suit when you go out to a nice (not formal) restaurant with your friends?

Sportscoats (and I'm not talking about the blue blazer with gold plastic buttons your mom bought for you before fraternity rush) are versatile and would enliven what sounds to me to be a wardrobe that screams, "I don't know what to wear, so put me in a suit and I oughtta be ok." Wearing either suits or board shorts is a copout. Anybody's wife can pick out a nice HF and we all have the surf shorts despite the best efforts of the fairer sex to rid us of them. Pick up a few sportcoats and start experimenting. They look great with neckerchiefs.
This is my philosophy, too. So many guys I work with only have three modes of dress: (i) random, casual weekend or non-workday stuff (this is broad and has subcategories, but it's not revelant here), (ii) business casual as worn to the office almost every day and (iii) business dress, usually a dark suit. This is boring and stupid. It's stupid to exclusivle (ii) or (iii) to the following occasions: cultural event, upscale but not that upscale restaurant, some wedding-related events, some kinds of client visits and travel, etc. I'm not saying that (ii) or (iii) won't work some of the time for these events, but it's just stupid to say that wearing a sport coat makes you look like a coach at a wedding.
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