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Originally posted by spookyfish
I'll type more slowly.

If the Red Sox win tomorrow, they will have an identical record to the Yankees, which would mean there was a tie.

Major League Baseball has these things called tie-breakers, in case of just such an eventuality between teams in the same division.

The first tie breaker is the "head-to-head" record.

After looking it up, counting tomorrow's game, the Yankees and Red Sox will have played each other 19 times.

With New York's win today, they have won 10 games against the Red Sox this season.

Even if the Red Sox win tomorrow, they will have no more than 9 wins against the Yankees this year.

So, even if we were to assume the Sox win tomorrow, the Yankees win the tie breaker with a record of 10-9 in head-to-head meetings, so they clinched the division today.

Got it now?

That I get. Why you included the Cleveland loss in your analysis of it being part of why the Yanks clinched today is beyond me and the source of my confusion.

btw, you know what is painful besides beng condescended to by spookydouche? Pulling your glute. Which is your ass muscle. You think it would be strong bc of all the fat it carries all the time. I cant freaking walk.

Originally posted by spookyfish
Since I double-posted, I'll answer your additional question here.

ETA: What Cleveland does only makes a difference in who wins the Wild Card berth.

Besides the division winners, Baseball allows one other team (the remaining team with the best record, regardless of division) a playoff berth.

The Sox are playing now for the wild card.

Right now, the Sox' record is one game better than Cleveland's. If the Sox win tomorrow, they're in no matter what Cleveland does.

If they lose, and Cleveland wins, Boston and Cleveland have the same record, and will play a one game playoff (technically the first post-season game, I guess) to see who gets the right to go on as the fourth team in the playoffs.

I got the whole wild card thing, as I wasnt introduced to baseball yesterday (though I have lost interest in it and am curious as to why the Angels are now Los Angeles). And I am still not clear on why the Yahoo article, and yourself, cited to the Cleveland loss in the analysis of the Yankee clinch.

[str8outavannuys]

Originally posted by spookyfish
I know, but it may have something to do with the fact that they played fewer games in a season and/or had fewer divisions. While I am certain MLB would looooove to have the additional revenue which comes with playing tie-breakers, I don't think anyone wants to be playing baseball into November.

Amazingly, with all these posts, nobody has answered Paigow's question of why the Cleveland game affected the Yankees "clinching," as Cleveland's in a different division.

The answer is that if a division ends up in a tie, and IF BOTH TEAMS ARE NOT AUTOMATICALLY IN THE PLAYOFFS, then they play a one-game playoff to see who wins the division. But if a division is a tie and both teams are in the playoffs, they go to the head-to-head tiebreaker to see who gets the (pretty meaningless) "division title") instead of playing another game.

Cleveland losing today meant that if there was a tie, both the Yankees and Red Sox would make the playoffs, thus guaranteeing the Yankees the division title (because of the head-to-head record). If the Indians had won today and tomorrow, and the Yanks and Sox had split today and tomorrow, then all three would finish with the same record, thus requiring a Yanks-Red Sox division title playoff game, followed by loser-vs-Cleveland game for the wildcard.

I hope that's the last word. I will now go back to kicking myself for not teasing USC by 6.5 or 7 points instead of 6 (off of a 16.5 point spread) in my teaser with Wisconsin and UCLA. Maybe UCLA will choke, thus making it academic.

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Is there any provision for a win to count double? A super-duper win, sts. Then it could be 10-10, no?

eta:

[true story] When I was child, in my youth, my hood played a regular summer season of whiffle ball, in addition to all of the kids playing little league ball. At my whiffle ball field, ie my parent's backyard, in the middle of what would have been centerfield there was a faux-decorative well house (it covered the artesian well cover-this was the country). If you hit the whiffle ball and it landed in the well house on the fly (which was tough as the opening was about 2' x 2' and there was a roof over it) it was an automatic grandslam (regardless of runners on base). IN 5 or 6 seasons there were only 3 of these ever. We made a plaque. It was big tyme shite in our hood. [/true story]

Does MLB have anything like that going on?

I have a better question. And it seems so obvious that it is almost a softball, no pun, if questiosn could be softballs. Is the term "whiff" descended from "whiffleball"? I seem to remember all the air in those things making it sort of easy to swing and miss at . Sort of like if Less were difficult to flame.

Penske, do you get high? Bc I think I would liike to smoke a joint with you aroud now. My ass huts.

[str8outavannuys]

I'll give you a 5 team teaser this week. (For those of you who don't know, a teaser is a bet that you get to add a certain number of points to the spread in your favor, but you have to take multiple teams, and the payout is complicated.

Cinci -9.5 (+6.5)
Indy -7 (+6.5)
San Diego +4 (+6.5)
Tampa -6.5 (+6.5)
Carolina -7.5 (+6.5)

If you're feeling shy, or don't want to wait until Monday night, or don't want to bet against Brett Favre, then drop the Panthers out and make it a 4 teamer.

I think the 3 sure things are SD, Tampa and Indy on this one.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
Amazingly, with all these posts, nobody has answered Paigow's question of why the Cleveland game affected the Yankees "clinching," as Cleveland's in a different division.

The answer is that if a division ends up in a tie, and IF BOTH TEAMS ARE NOT AUTOMATICALLY IN THE PLAYOFFS, then they play a one-game playoff to see who wins the division. But if a division is a tie and both teams are in the playoffs, they go to the head-to-head tiebreaker to see who gets the (pretty meaningless) "division title") instead of playing another game.

Cleveland losing today meant that if there was a tie, both the Yankees and Red Sox would make the playoffs, thus guaranteeing the Yankees the division title (because of the head-to-head record). If the Indians had won today and tomorrow, and the Yanks and Sox had split today and tomorrow, then all three would finish with the same record, thus requiring a Yanks-Red Sox division title playoff game, followed by loser-vs-Cleveland game for the wildcard.

I hope that's the last word. I will now go back to kicking myself for not teasing USC by 6.5 or 7 points instead of 6 (off of a 16.5 point spread) in my teaser with Wisconsin and UCLA. Maybe UCLA will choke, thus making it academic.

Translation: Hank is right.

Dear Indians Upstairs:

I appreciate that you are unwilling to buy an area rug for your apartment and I appreciate that you love the songs "Africa" by Toto, and "the Boxer" by Simon and Garfunkel. In fact, you have made me come to reappreciate Toto. Africa is kind of a cool song. In the way "Owner of a Lonely Heart: by Yes is. Better appreacited stoned for sure. But I have also recently rediscovered "Woman in Love" by Barbra Streisand and now love it, so maybe its ust me. I am getting older and apparently am loving the lite FM (ncs, please burn me that CD ). Maybe I will bu Paul Davis's greatest hits at some point. But I digress.

I know its Saturday night, and ites only 8:16, and this is the time of the week when you play your Gay Club thumpa thumpa music. And when I am home I am usually toleratnt. But my ass is killing me and I am just not in the mood. Don't make me bang my broomstick handle into the celing please. THe cheap plaster gets all over the place.

No my brooomstick is not a form of transportation


Sinecerely,

the Bitch downstairs who is About to Start Singing to Barbra Streisand, Which Wont Be Pretty

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Translation: Hank is right.

No, translation: Spooky is a douche who did not get my question. Maybe I shoudl have typed more slowly.

Thank you Str8 for that is what I did not get. APpparently Spooky is not a Yale grad. Gotta dumb it down for te Case Western crowd.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
No, translation: Spooky is a douche who did not get my question. Maybe I shoudl have typed more slowly.

Thank you Str8 for that is what I did not get. APpparently Spooky is not a Yale grad. Gotta dumb it down for te Case Western crowd.

You also owe me a thank you, because I was the one who framed the question.

Beyond the cheap personal shots, which I have moved beyond, I must admit that I do not see how these people in general can give advice to clients. They seem not to be able to start with explaining the basics.

A client doesn't get "It's a section 237 action, duh." You have to explain. Is it me?

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
You also owe me a thank you, because I was the one who framed the question.

Beyond the cheap personal shots, which I have moved beyond, I must admit that I do not see how these people in general can give advice to clients. They seem not to be able to start with explaining the basics.

A client doesn't get "It's a section 237 action, duh." You have to explain. Is it me?

Actually, in Spooky's case its more like he said "its a section 237 action, Red beats Green and Delano demurred " then when questioned on the correlation between Delano and the 237 action he said "I will type more slowly. Bc red beats green and red is reddeer than green" when what he shoudl have said is that"It is a Section 237 action because of the concurrence of the fact that Delano demurred and Red beats green. Without Delano demurring, red beating green would not arise to a 237 action (even though Delano resides in a different jurisdiction) because the Delano correlation to the 237 action is X. "

I don't actually think Spooky understood why there was a correlation between Delano demurring and there being a 237 action, just that there was some correlation he didn't understand. Which I understood by the time he said "I will type more slowly". I just dont think he knew himself. '

Which is why Spooky only got into Case Western and not Yale

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Dear Indians Upstairs:

I appreciate that you are unwilling to buy an area rug for your apartment and I appreciate that you love the songs "Africa" by Toto, and "the Boxer" by Simon and Garfunkel. In fact, you have made me come to reappreciate Toto. Africa is kind of a cool song. In the way "Owner of a Lonely Heart: by Yes is. Better appreacited stoned for sure. But I have also recently rediscovered "Woman in Love" by Barbra Streisand and now love it, so maybe its ust me. I am getting older and apparently am loving the lite FM (ncs, please burn me that CD ). Maybe I will bu Paul Davis's greatest hits at some point. But I digress.

I know its Saturday night, and ites only 8:16, and this is the time of the week when you play your Gay Club thumpa thumpa music. And when I am home I am usually toleratnt. But my ass is killing me and I am just not in the mood. Don't make me bang my broomstick handle into the celing please. THe cheap plaster gets all over the place.

No my brooomstick is not a form of transportation


Sinecerely,

the Bitch downstairs who is About to Start Singing to Barbra Streisand, Which Wont Be Pretty

I still don't get what Cleveland has to do with it.

[SlaveNoMore]

spookyfish
Chicago 4

Indians 3

One game left. One game behind the Red Sox in the Wild Card chase.

I will be rooting for the Yankees tomorrow. The motherfucking New York Yankees.

I think I am going to be sick.

Life's a bitch.

If it helps, I'm rooting for the Tribe tomorrow. I want them to both burn out with the extra game.

[SlaveNoMore]

paigowprincess
That I get. Why you included the Cleveland loss in your analysis of it being part of why the Yanks clinched today is beyond me and the source of my confusion.

btw, you know what is painful besides beng condescended to by spookydouche? Pulling your glute. Which is your ass muscle. You think it would be strong bc of all the fat it carries all the time. I cant freaking walk.

Bottom line.

They go to the head-to-head tiebreaker if BOTH teams are assured of a playoff.

Cleveland losing today means that the best record they can achieve is ONE Game behind the Yankees and Sox (assuming the Sox beat the Yankees tomorrow - and they wont).

Since both teams would then be assured of a playoff spot (in this scenario) the Yanks win the division via tiebreaker.

Ergo, they clinched.

Had Cleveland won today, they still would have had a chance to end the season in a 3 way tie.

PS - F Barry Bonds. 35K showed up today at PacBell to watch a meaningless game - great weather BTW - and this gimp decided to sit it out. The estimation in the seats was that he was paid close to 1.75 million a game this year.

PPS - F Tedford. Cal came nowhere near the over

[SlaveNoMore]

paigowprincess
My ass huts.

Get off it sometime. It will thank you.




Maybe not today, but soon.

[SlaveNoMore]

str8outavannuys
I'll give you a 5 team teaser this week. (For those of you who don't know, a teaser is a bet that you get to add a certain number of points to the spread in your favor, but you have to take multiple teams, and the payout is complicated.

Cinci -9.5 (+6.5)
Indy -7 (+6.5)
San Diego +4 (+6.5)
Tampa -6.5 (+6.5)
Carolina -7.5 (+6.5)

If you're feeling shy, or don't want to wait until Monday night, or don't want to bet against Brett Favre, then drop the Panthers out and make it a 4 teamer.

I think the 3 sure things are SD, Tampa and Indy on this one.

By my unofficial count Arnie, you're about 3.2K in the hole.

You offering picks is like Fringey suggesting a salad