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[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Not Bob
It would have made a difference if they didn't reverse the call.

Right. And Schilling's injury would have made a difference if he couldn't pitch 93 mph with it. What you're saying is, "It didn't make a difference."

Originally posted by Not Bob
Personally, the act itself bothers me less than his reaction ("look! see me make a running motion with my arms! that's how cornrow boy dropped the ball!") after he was called out.

We've had this discussion. Does it injure your sensibilities when a receiver pleads with a referee that he caught the ball when he clearly hasn't? When every basketball player whines that they didn't foul someone after they just took someone's head off? When Manny pretends like he caught the ball even though he clearly trapped it? It's like you've never watched sports before.

TM

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
The point is, why the fuck is Trot Nixon talking shit? Why is Schilling? It's not like Schilling is a long suffering Boston player who finally won and can talk some shit. And Trot Nixon? Whatever.

Why? I don't know -- I don't get it. But why them? Because both of them have the cred to talk shit about whoever they want.

This is such a load of crap, built up because everyone thought he was done when clearly he wasn't. He took the mound and was healthy enough to throw in the low-mid nineties. And now he's playing it up for all it's worth.

Same thing with that faker Willis Reed. Why, the fact that he got off the pine and played in that game just showed he wasn't that sick.

I bet Schilling wouldn't have been throwing so hard if he hadn't had the will power/etc. to pitch through the pain from his foot.

Good point, if we were talking about the World Series, which we weren't.

I was.

[str8outavannuys]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Speaking of Idol, the SXSW bands list is up and Billy Idol and Vanilla Ice look to be staging comebacks.

Wow. 2005 SXSW is quite something. Here's my thoughts:

Top draws of the festival:
The Dears
The Donnas
The Doves
Elvis Costello
Fatboy Slim
Inora George
Ray LaMontagne
Stephen Malkmus
M.I.A.
Michelle Shocked
Ske (if you like Sigur Ros . . .)

Curiosity items:
Ash
Dogs Die In Hot Cars (1 hit wonder? Or . . .)
Hot Hot Heat
The Kills
The Wallflowers (ditto . . . except I think we know the answer)
Glen Phillips (from Toad the Wet Sprocket)
Duncan Sheik (Barely Breathing at this point)
Shonen Knife (let's knife!)

Sleeper:
Willy Mason . . . I love his stuff. Check it out.

Great names of bands I've never heard of:
Bear vs. Shark
Holy Fuck (Toronto!)
I love you but I've chosen darkness
Jai Alai Savant
Parts & Labor
Selfish Cunt
Sharq (bonus points for being from Taskhent!)

Don't confuse them with their more famous namesakes:
Tia Carrera (punk trio)
Whitney Houston (Rock outfit from Edmonton)
Steve Wynn & the Miracle 3 (probably not the guy who owns the Mirage)

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I think you think this type of quote bothers me somehow. It doesn't. He is unclutch. A fraud. Makes his money and gets his numbers off of the mediocre pitchers in the league. Strikes out too much. Can't sacrifice when we need him to. Shitty average with runners in scoring position. Etc.

But the glove-smacking thing is the dumbest thing to bring up because it doesn't mean anything.

Sure it does. Instead of running through the guy -- as you pointed out, an aggressive, physical play that would have also been by the book -- A-Rod avoided the contact, slapped at the ball, and then told the umpires he hadn't done it. It was his moment.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
It's great too, how the Sox ran Lowe out of town on a rail for being a partying slob - and then they roll in a keg...I mean Boomer...to replace him.

They ran Lowe out of town for having worse numbers every year for no apparent physical reason, and for being maddeningly inconsistent at key times, like last September. And because they knew that some team would overpay him based on what he did in October.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I can't believe Flinty's not involved in this.


Koko with A-Rod (or another pussy)

• "There's a history with this nipple thing," he said, leafing through the transcript and pointing out the word "nipple" -- which he'd highlighted in pink -- each time it appeared.
  
  The suit, in any case, says that Patterson would interpret hand movements by Koko as a demand to see exposed human nipples. She warned Alperin and Keller that their employment with the foundation would suffer, the suit says, if they "did not indulge Koko's nipple fetish."

If this goes to trial, will Koko get to testify?

[Anne Elk]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
What a tremendously stupid thing to say.

1. I don't care if you feel like it, get the right quote before you say what they said was no big deal. Otherwise, don't feel like it in silence.

2. You are fucking joking about ARod bashing not being a big deal up there. Please kid yourself on your own time. I've read articles and articles about fan treatment of ARod whenever he plays up there. When you didn't get him last year and we did, you guys bitched and moaned and screamed unfair like you're the smallest-market team in the league. And It's your team that always has something to say about him. It's Jeter and Posada who say things like, "I don't get why they keep bringing it up, but I tend to handle things on the field." Jeter doesn't come out with quotes like, "Damon is a clown for saying the Angels were the best team we faced this year." (And Damon is a fucking clown) Idiots like Nixon and Schilling are incapable of exercising the appropriate self-control. And if it's not a big deal, please tell your radio show guys to shut up about it too. They didn't get your memo, I've heard.

I read your original post

Someone tell me why Nixon and Schilling are so intent on talking shit about ARod? I don't understand it. Don't they understand that they look like idiots criticizing any of our players after they've won exactly one championship in the last 85 years? I know ARod's the new guy, but get a grip.

as a comment on the current state of affairs in the press. My response was that in Boston, the Sox players bashing on ARod is not getting the press that it is in New York. Maybe the Patriots, or Tedy Bruschi's stroke, or the cancelled NHL season, or the stupid idea of not handing out the WS rings on Opening Day are taking up the print inches. Now that Tedy is on his way home from the hospital and the WS rings have been sorted out we'll see if the papers make more of the ARod story.

I haven't heard anything about ARod on my brief surfing of the local evening news programs.

Damon's wedding got more press than the current round of ARod bashing.

I can't comment on the radio show guys because I can't stand listening to them. Idiots.

If you want to debate the contents of the comments I need to find them and read them. Maybe they are making the comments because reporters are asking them the questions. The 5 major NY papers send reporters to the Sox camp for spring training?

In general, I think players talking smack before the season has even started are just stupid. You haven't even played a game yet. Both teams have different personnel. Shut up and practice and let's see what happens in April.

FWIW we also booed ARod when he was with the Rangers.

On that note, I'm heading to the bar.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
Sure it does. Instead of running through the guy -- as you pointed out, an aggressive, physical play that would have also been by the book -- A-Rod avoided the contact, slapped at the ball, and then told the umpires he hadn't done it. It was his moment.

He knocks out Cornrow - who was clearly in the baseline - it starts a brawl. Tino cries to the league - and Selig - the Steinbrenner/Yankees hater that he is - suspends him for the rest of the Series for "attempting to injure" We now have Enrique Wilson playing third base.

Quite frankly, I would have preferred this result, and watched Cornrow's head bleed.

But for the love of god don't all of a sudden say this result would have made for a different response from RSN. If anything, we'd still be hearing about how big, bad A-Rod ran over a defenseless pitcher.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
We've had this discussion. Does it injure your sensibilities when a receiver pleads with a referee that he caught the ball when he clearly hasn't? When every basketball player whines that they didn't foul someone after they just took someone's head off? When Manny pretends like he caught the ball even though he clearly trapped it? It's like you've never watched sports before.

OK, in order: (1) usually not (see below); (2) yes (and in hockey, too. sniff); and (3) usually not.

The difference? The guy who cross-checks Yzerman and argues with the ref knows he broke the rules. Dude, suck it up. You got caught. Skate to the box like a man.

If the wide receiver pleads a bit, but then trots back to the huddle, no problem. And if the outfielder traps the ball and tries to pretend he caught it, same thing. Maybe this is a distinction without a difference to you, but they didn't cheat. They tried to catch the ball, and are hoping that the ref/umpire didn't see that their attempt failed. To me, that is different than hoping that the ref/umpire didn't see them breaking a rule.

Be like Graig Nettles was when he was caught with the super ball-loaded bat back in the day. Smile, shrug, take your medicine, and move on.

[str8outavannuys]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
It's great too, how the Sox ran Lowe out of town on a rail for being a partying slob - and then they roll in a keg...I mean Boomer...to replace him.

If only we had Detroit in the AL East instead of TB, Boomer would be the first player in MLB history to play for every team in a division at some point in his career.

I am 90% certain that nobody has done this; not even in the 4 team NL West or AL West.

Wait, did Boomer ever pitch for the D-Rays?

[Anne Elk]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
The best pickup they made was Wade Miller. Clement is a sub-.500 hack and Wells has an awful career record in Fenway.

2

I don't think Wells will do well. Can't back it up with stats, just a gut* feeling.

*unintentional

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
They ran Lowe out of town for having worse numbers every year for no apparent physical reason, and for being maddeningly inconsistent at key times, like last September. And because they knew that some team would overpay him based on what he did in October.

I thought you and I had conversations about this. For the last few years - and until the middle of last season - Boston's infield was like a sieve.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Why? I don't know -- I don't get it. But why them? Because both of them have the cred to talk shit about whoever they want.

I'll tell you why. Because they have no class.

And I'll give you Schilling, but please note that Trot kissed Jeter and Posada's ass in his quotes because he still only has one ring and has beat them all of one time.

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Same thing with that faker Willis Reed. Why, the fact that he got off the pine and played in that game just showed he wasn't that sick.

I knew you would bring this up. How many points did he score when he came back? If he had played well when he did, then he wasn't that injured. But I believe Walt Clyde was the real hero of that game. And no one says shit about what he did, do they?

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I bet Schilling wouldn't have been throwing so hard if he hadn't had the will power/etc. to pitch through the pain from his foot.

Kiss my ass, please. He was shot up so high that he couldn't feel it if his foot came off. If you want to give him extra credit, do it for that.

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I was.

Cool. As long as you know it had nothing to do with what we were talking about before you jumped in, I'm fine with that. In fact, feel free to continue talking to yourself about the World Series.

TM

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
He knocks out Cornrow - who was clearly in the baseline - it starts a brawl. Tino cries to the league - and Selig - the Steinbrenner/Yankees hater that he is - suspends him for the rest of the Series for "attempting to injure" We now have Enrique Wilson playing third base.

Quite frankly, I would have preferred this result, and watched Cornrow's head bleed.

But for the love of god don't all of a sudden say this result would have made for a different response from RSN. If anything, we'd still be hearing about how big, bad A-Rod ran over a defenseless pitcher.

You poor, poor Yankees fans. Even if A-Rod had played it hard and clean, the umpires and everyone else would have been picking on you.

I thought you and I had conversations about this. For the last few years - and until the middle of last season - Boston's infield was like a sieve.

We did. It was sieve-like all of that time, during which Lowe's numbers got worse. He improved some in August when they got Cabrera and Mientkiewicz (note correct spelling!), and I thought getting rid of Nomar made the difference, but then Lowe completely lost it again down the stretch in September, when he was trying to make his case for the play-off rotation. There were good reasons that he ended up behind Wakefield and Arroyo.

[Anne Elk]

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
If only we had Detroit in the AL East instead of TB, Boomer would be the first player in MLB history to play for every team in a division at some point in his career.

I am 90% certain that nobody has done this; not even in the 4 team NL West or AL West.

Wait, did Boomer ever pitch for the D-Rays?

Wasn't Detroit in the AL East back in pre-expansion days?

Now, I'm going to the bar. Really.