Fashion Board 5-7-04 to 6-9-04

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
The problem is your generalizations are broader than even Sebby's foul truths.

If you stay four-five years at a firm, then moving means you've been asked to move, because they don't want to waste time with you on the partnership track.

If you wait 6-7 years, well, then it's because you were definitely passed over for partner.

And if you're leaving as a partner, it's assuredly because you were ass-fucking the wrong paralegal.

So, no matter what, regardless of what firm you're leaving you must be a sorry-ass retread in your book.

Yet, oddly, plenty of firms are making the same mistake again and again. Curious how they stay in business.

And don't even begin to speculate how companies hiring these worn-out retreads for inside positions manage to survive. The government, of course, is easy to explain.

Nice post hoc, but no. I didnt generalize but stated the premise that its better to be at a place three or four years or whatnot than two. then i stated possible scenarios.

and i certainly didnt say anything about how it must be hard to stay in busines doing that , or that that has anything to do with what I was saying at all. though I will say that probalbyjmore firms than not out there are shitty places to work teaming with shitty lawyers. \

disagree with that Mister I Cannot Be Wrong Ever So I will Distonre Contexts and Put WOrds In Peoples Mouths So As TO Seem Right When Really The Only One I am Fooling Is Myslelf and Maybe A Couple of Shitty Lawuyrs At Shitty Law Firms Who Lurk But Dont Post.


Last word is all yours serve it up.

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I have serious doubts that anyone would be able to accurately guess.

Name in Script around her neck.

[dtb]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
OK, but then he is looking at a firm that just wants a body and isnt doing "opportunistic hiring" as one large prominent firm recently described it to me. Unless they think the Coltrane creds are so stellar (ie 4.0 at harvard and editor of law review, etc etc) that the fact that he has only been at his job two years is somthing that can be overlooked. If you were a firm that wanted a good stable happy worker bee, wouldnt you prefer someone who was at a job for a longer period of time thatn the first semi credible chance to jump ship?

ANd I would add that asking for grades is just as recockulous.

Concur. When I was at a firm, we interviewed a guy who had great credentials on paper. He had gone to an ivy league law school (and college, I think, but wouldn't swear to it), was on law review, clerked for a federal circuit court judge, and had worked at good firms; however, the fact that he left each job after about a year was bad news. I actually knew him (total loser), and was wary for reasons unrelated to his awkward resume, but not one person failed to comment on how strange it was.

Asking for grades isn't so ridiculous when you're really junior, but after a few years, who the hell cares? When someone kindly posted listings for copy editors a while back, I took a look, and there was one company DE Shaw (wtf?) who asked for SAT SCORES! If that's not the stupidest thing ever, I don't know what is. How does one go about getting one's SAT scores, anyway? That was umm... well, a lot of years ago!

[sunnybunny]

Originally posted by Mister_Ruysbroeck
No shit. They've only got each other, so can you blame them? They gotta stick together against us ugly proles, you know?

Seriously Mr. R, you used to be a poster I enjoyed and now you're just an omnipresent wannabe wise-ass. Something tells me you aren't in as much of "blissville" as you keep singing.

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by sunnybunny
Seriously Mr. R, you used to be a poster I enjoyed....

I thought you only fucked the Flower?

Originally posted by sunnybunny
Seriously Mr. R, you used to be a poster I enjoyed and now you're just an omnipresent wannabe wise-ass. Something tells me you aren't in as much of "blissville" as you keep singing.

Actually, I enjoy him more now than I used to. Though I agree that the marriage is potentially on the rocks. Based strictly on postings.

[Alex_de_Large]

Originally posted by dtb Asking for grades isn't so ridiculous when you're really junior, but after a few years, who the hell cares?

There was a story in the legal press here in Philadelphia a few years back about a lateral partner who, IIRC, has a substantial book of business, being dinged by a BigLaw firm. The public* reason for the dinging was that his LS transcript wasn't up to snuff. Do forms really make prospective lateral partners produce a transcript? WTF?!?



* Of course, the actual reason could have been completely different. Either way, they hung this dude out to dry in a very public way.

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
There was a story in the legal press here in Philadelphia a few years back about a lateral partner who, IIRC, has a substantial book of business, being dingerd by a BigLaw firm. The public* reason for the dinging was that his LS transcript wasn't up to snuff. Do forms really make prospective lateral partners produce a transcript? WTF?!?



* Of course, the actual reason could have been completely different. Either way, they hung this dude out to dry in a very public way.

Wasnt this the Gibson incident?

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
There was a story in the legal press here in Philadelphia a few years back about a lateral partner who, IIRC, has a substantial book of business, being dingerd by a BigLaw firm. The public* reason for the dinging was that his LS transcript wasn't up to snuff. Do forms really make prospective lateral partners produce a transcript? WTF?!?



* Of course, the actual reason could have been completely different. Either way, they hung this dude out to dry in a very public way.

I think it was Gibson Dunn, which is, allegedly, notoriously obsessed with grades and school rank and all those gold stars.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I have serious doubts that anyone would be able to accurately guess.

My guess is a picture of a woman peeing on a guy with a huge grin on his face, but I don't know enough dirt on the sister to hazard a more informed guess. something that involved would have to be on either the back or the chest*.


*for purposes of my guess, I am assuming she is stacked.

[Alex_de_Large]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Wasnt this the Gibson incident?

No, different firm. I think the firm doing the rejecting was Dechert. Don't remember who the partner was, or where he was coming from.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Nice post hoc, but no. I didnt generalize but stated the premise that its better to be at a place three or four years or whatnot than two. then i stated possible scenarios.

and i certainly didnt say anything about how it must be hard to stay in busines doing that , or that that has anything to do with what I was saying at all. though I will say that probalbyjmore firms than not out there are shitty places to work teaming with shitty lawyers. \

disagree with that Mister I Cannot Be Wrong Ever So I will Distonre Contexts and Put WOrds In Peoples Mouths So As TO Seem Right When Really The Only One I am Fooling Is Myslelf and Maybe A Couple of Shitty Lawuyrs At Shitty Law Firms Who Lurk But Dont Post.


Last word is all yours serve it up.

Coltrane - if you're searching the internet for items to copy for your writing sample, you probably shouldn't use this one. Or at least clean it up a little.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
No, different firm. I think the firm doing the rejecting was Dechert. Don't remember who the partner was, or where he was coming from.

Well, there was Gibson too.

http://www.nylawyer.com/news/03/02/020403f.html

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
though I will say that probalbyjmore firms than not out there are shitty places to work teaming with shitty lawyers. \

Well, I would hope so. After all, with whom else would they work?

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Coltrane - if you're searching the internet for items to copy for your writing sample, you probably shouldn't use this one. Or at least clean it up a little.

No, really, it was effective advocacy. I rest my case upon it.