Fashion Board 4-6-04 to 5-7-04

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Doubtlessly she was thinking "I hate lawyers." WTF? Who cares if she is wrong on a technical point of the rules, if all she is doing is tyring to make sure that the people in the exit row understand that they may have to do something if there's an emergency? Is the FAs understanding of every detail of the FAA regs really that important to you? Were you trying to start a debate? Did you expect her to take your word for it? Were you intended to start an attorney-client relationship with the airline by rendering legal advice about the interpretation of FAA rules? (better alert the firm's carrier!)

I'm reminded of a geek in my law school class who gave the sweet bookstore lady endless grief when she asked for his phone number on the credit card slip, because California had recently enacted legislation that prohibited this. So freaking what? If he really cared, he should have taken his complaint to her superiorssince they were the ones putting the policy in place. If he was just trying to prove his superior, lawyer-like knowledge, then he did the right thing.


eta: Apparently I just couldn't wait until tomorrow. BnB knows I love her, though, and not just for her long, slinky legs.

God, I fucking hate lawyers - and everybody else - who acts like that. I had a buddy who used to tell people it was against the law to have credit card minimums. He'd say that shit to guys who barely spoke English in Chinese markets. Total idiot.

Oh, and people who take out doggy bags or send food back when its just slightly incorrectly prepared should be beaten with heavy chains. I understand if the steak is well done and you wanted rare, but I don't think it will kill you if the black bean soup is drizzled with sour cream. If you're lactose intolerant, wipe the cream off. As to doggy bags, don't be such a cheap bastard. You probably aren't going to eat that cold shit when you get it home anyway, so give the poor waiter a break. He doesn't want to wrap your one sq. inch of glass noodles.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
I wasn't trying to start a debate, you sanctimonious prick. I've just sat in the exit row enough times to know that merely nodding your head is sufficient for the FAA.

Again, so what, you prissy bitch? (wow, gratuitous name-calling is fun!) You have a FA whose supervisor or training manual told her "The FAA requires this." You, of course, have the enormous knowledge garnered from sitting in the exit row on a dozen flights (probably the number of flights this FA works in a single week -- but still, your knowledge is clearly impressive.)

The lady's got plane full of stressed out people who hate travelling. Give her a frigging verbal response. You had to do it anyway, and you had to know that would be the result.

These criticisms do not apply to TM's story or the other stories about people using legal knowledge to prevent someone from screwing them over. But hating an FA because she asks you to say "yes" instead of nodding your head? You poor, poor baby.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I understand if the steak is well done and you wanted rare, but I don't think it will kill you if the black bean soup is drizzled with sour cream. If you're lactose intolerant, wipe the cream off.

Funny, I never had you pegged for having experience in the food service industry.

How were the tips?

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by bilmore
Just to be fair, (why? because we love you!), I bet if I stood up there and gave that stupid little "put the mask over your face" demonstration six thousand times to a bunch of people who ignored me and yapped right through the speech, and then complained about the flight taking off ten minutes late, and then asked me to bring them a pillow that they walked past on the way in, I'd think of ways to fuck with them, too.

And I'm a pleasant guy.

Yeah, but it's their effing job. I am nice to clients I hate because it's my job. Am I sometimes a bitch to the convenience store idiot who is super slow and irritating? Do I fuck with people who are not my clients? Yes. But it is not my job to be nice or not fuck with them. I bet it sucks to be a flight attendant. That's why I'm not a flight attendant.

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
God, I fucking hate lawyers - and everybody else - who acts like that. I had a buddy who used to tell people it was against the law to have credit card minimums. He'd say that shit to guys who barely spoke English in Chinese markets. Total idiot.

Oh, and people who take out doggy bags or send food back when its just slightly incorrectly prepared should be beaten with heavy chains. I understand if the steak is well done and you wanted rare, but I don't think it will kill you if the black bean soup is drizzled with sour cream. If you're lactose intolerant, wipe the cream off. As to doggy bags, don't be such a cheap bastard. You probably aren't going to eat that cold shit when you get it home anyway, so give the poor waiter a break. He doesn't want to wrap your one sq. inch of glass noodles.

Worse are the ones who constantly pester and berate the waiter over every tiny thing, sit at the table for 4 hours so no one else can take it over and give the waiter a break, then leave a miserably shitty tip in retaliation for no wrong done to them. Yes, they're servers and ought to do their job well. But for 2.35 an hour plus your lordly minion-crushing plus your pissant tip, they ought to beat your face in with their platter. I no longer dine with these assholes--I had to flee to the "bathroom" (bar) for half the evening to ease my chagrin.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Funny, I never had you pegged for having experience in the food service industry.

How were the tips?

I don't. But I do have a load of experience with being embarrassed by asshole friends and associates.

Funny, ain't it? Associates bitch all day about partners behaving like cocksuckers, then they do the same thing to people working for them at restaurants. I've found that if you're nice to waiters/bartenders - and not just nice in regard to tips, but actually acting polite and respectful - you get all sorts of killer tables and perks. Once cat who I thought was a host buys me and the wife a round when he sees us. We got to talking and I found out he owns most of the place. Restaurants frequently get into litigation for all sorts of stuff.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
As to doggy bags, don't be such a cheap bastard. You probably aren't going to eat that cold shit when you get it home anyway, so give the poor waiter a break. He doesn't want to wrap your one sq. inch of glass noodles.

Fuck that. I'm taking the other half of my $40 porterhouse home. I guarantee I eat it.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Fuck that. I'm taking the other half of my $40 porterhouse home. I guarantee I eat it.

You think you beeg beeg man and you can't even finish steak!

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Restaurants frequently get into litigation for all sorts of stuff.

You have no idea...

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
You think you beeg beeg man and you can't even finish steak!

Too much bread! Too much goddamn bread!

[bilmore]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I've found that if you're nice to waiters/bartenders - and not just nice in regard to tips, but actually acting polite and respectful - you get all sorts of killer tables and perks.

This is why I always get better seats and service than Abba.

The downside, of course, is that I don't get to experience that rush of raw power that comes from berating the peasants . . .

[Oliver_Wendell_Ramone]

Originally posted by Gattigap
I never had you pegged for having experience in the food service industry.

Then why did you have him pegged?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
You have no idea...

Hey, you get business in the strangest places.

I'd love to own a restaurant someday, but I'd die. I'd eat everything and drink around the clock and lose my ass. Its tough work, but I actually love doing the table to table shmoozing bit. I actually enjoyed that gig during my wedding. When you're buzzed, small talk is really interesting. You just need to have a coffee or smoke after every thrid drink.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by purse junkie
But for 2.35 an hour

2.35 an hour? Jesus effing christ. I suppose other states haven't followed California's lead in declaring that minumum wage means minimum wage, and the food service industry doesn't get to offset that with potential tips?

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Funny, ain't it? Associates bitch all day about partners behaving like cocksuckers, then they do the same thing to people working for them at restaurants. I've found that if you're nice to waiters/bartenders - and not just nice in regard to tips, but actually acting polite and respectful - you get all sorts of killer tables and perks. Once cat who I thought was a host buys me and the wife a round when he sees us. We got to talking and I found out he owns most of the place. Restaurants frequently get into litigation for all sorts of stuff.

SD is mostly correct here. It amazes me that more people don't realize this.

And it applies to the people in the office, too. You don't think that that idiot real estate partner who yells at the IT staff is last on the list when his computer crashes? Or that the chick in corporate who is snotty to the word processing clerk doesn't have her "must have" agreement shoved to the bottom of the stack?