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09-05-2006, 04:51 PM
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#421
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WacKtose Intolerant
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More useless statistics
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
thanks Wonk. i've reviewed these tables, and I'm right.
Hank Chinaski
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I looked at them and concur.
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Since I'm a righteous man, I don't eat ham;
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09-05-2006, 04:54 PM
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#422
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I clicked through. What. Ever.
If only some of y'all took the same expansive view of "lying" when it came to Bush administration officials before they left office.
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I thought clarke was in the Bush administration. Penske isn't taking sides here.
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I will not suffer a fool- but I do seem to read a lot of their posts
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09-05-2006, 04:54 PM
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#423
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For what it's worth
Join Date: Feb 2005
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what to do, what to do.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Given that you were just insinuating that I subscribe to the lefty meme du jour, irony intended, I am amused that you responded to that Zakaria quotation with lengthy responses to parts of his column that I didn't quote. Glad to see you're getting your talking points so quickly.
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This post is just as much intended for Slave as Tyrone. So Tyrone you think the threat of Iran is exaggerated. So what do you think we should do if the UN continues to refuse to do anything? Do you think we should never go beyond non military sanctions and let them build a bomb?
Slave. So you think the threat from Iran is serious. So what do we do if the UN refuses to to anything. Invade?
Personally I think that if Iran decides to build a nuclear bomb there is not much we can do about it (whether they are a big threat or not).
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09-05-2006, 04:54 PM
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#424
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WacKtose Intolerant
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I'm sorry -- when you posted that link, I assumed you were just throwing in the towel. It didn't occur to me that you took that guy seriously. Was there anything in particular about his column that struck you as convincing?
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The same attributes that make your blog cites convincing. And note, I didn't try to muddy the waters with any deceptive misleading statistical manipulation.....
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Since I'm a righteous man, I don't eat ham;
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09-05-2006, 04:58 PM
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
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Tyrone Slothrop
Given that you were just insinuating that I subscribe to the lefty meme du jour, irony intended, I am amused that you responded to that Zakaria quotation with lengthy responses to parts of his column that I didn't quote. Glad to see you're getting your talking points so quickly.
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You linked to the entire article, no?
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09-05-2006, 05:00 PM
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#426
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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what to do, what to do.
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Originally posted by Spanky
So Tyrone you think the threat of Iran is exaggerated.
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I didn't say that.
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09-05-2006, 05:02 PM
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#427
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
The same attributes that make your blog cites convincing.
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The null set. I win! w00t! Pwned!

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的t was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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09-05-2006, 05:06 PM
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#428
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
You linked to the entire article, no?
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Indeed. To provide a cite. But I have not even read the entire article.
I agree that Iran with nukes is a bad thing. Probably not as bad as the NRO crowed. There are Iranians who are saying some pretty troubling stuff, but there are Americans who talk about nuking Mecca and so on. It's hard to say how worried to be about Iranian rhetoric. Are they staking out an extreme position to maximize their bargaining power?
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的t was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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09-05-2006, 05:11 PM
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#429
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
Posts: 9,477
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what to do, what to do.
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Spanky
This post is just as much intended for Slave as Tyrone. So Tyrone you think the threat of Iran is exaggerated. So what do you think we should do if the UN continues to refuse to do anything? Do you think we should never go beyond non military sanctions and let them build a bomb?
Slave. So you think the threat from Iran is serious. So what do we do if the UN refuses to to anything. Invade?
Personally I think that if Iran decides to build a nuclear bomb there is not much we can do about it (whether they are a big threat or not).
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I think we've currently got a bigger problem with the Pakis, as the Muslim minority party has avowed to share its nukles with the rest of the region once Musharref is ousted (i.e. assassinated).
I think viz Iran we need to do several things (1) let Israel do whatever they want militarily, (2) let Bolton steamroll France and the EU at the UN to get actual, legitimate sanctions in place, (3) step up our efforts (which clearly have been atrocious in recent years) to encourage the pro-American Iranian middle class to rise up against the Mullahs, and (4) stop looking weak by allowing terrorists like Khatami to wander around the US giving speeches.
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09-05-2006, 05:13 PM
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#430
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Consigliere
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Location: Pelosi Land!
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Tyrone Slothrop
Indeed. To provide a cite. But I have not even read the entire article.
I agree that Iran with nukes is a bad thing. Probably not as bad as the NRO crowed. There are Iranians who are saying some pretty troubling stuff, but there are Americans who talk about nuking Mecca and so on. It's hard to say how worried to be about Iranian rhetoric. Are they staking out an extreme position to maximize their bargaining power?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it a bit different when an anonymous lawyer named "Not Me" talks about nuking Mecca, and another thing entirely when the "leader" of an actual country with nukes talks about wiping Israel "off the map"?
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09-05-2006, 05:14 PM
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#431
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WacKtose Intolerant
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: PenskeWorld
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Indeed. To provide a cite. But I have not even read the entire article.
I agree that Iran with nukes is a bad thing. Probably not as bad as the NRO crowed. There are Iranians who are saying some pretty troubling stuff, but there are Americans who talk about nuking Mecca and so on. It's hard to say how worried to be about Iranian rhetoric. Are they staking out an extreme position to maximize their bargaining power?
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Please cite a post to Bush, or even Cheney, talking about nuking mecca...if you cannot, then please apologise for the deceptively misleading post above......the last shreds of your very limited remaining credibility are at issue here.
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Since I'm a righteous man, I don't eat ham;
I wish more people was alive like me
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09-05-2006, 05:16 PM
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#432
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,062
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Quote:
Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it a bit different when an anonymous lawyer named "Not Me" talks about nuking Mecca, and another thing entirely when the "leader" of an actual country with nukes talks about wiping Israel "off the map"?
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Yes. I would agree with that.
At the same time, I'm not sure we ought to take everything they say at face value.
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的t was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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09-05-2006, 05:16 PM
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#433
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,062
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Quote:
Originally posted by Penske_Account
Please cite a post to Bush, or even Cheney, talking about nuking mecca...if you cannot, then please apologise for the deceptively misleading post above......the last shreds of your very limited remaining credibility are at issue here.
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Is there a way to put your posts on ignore but continue get PMs from you?
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的t was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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09-05-2006, 05:19 PM
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#434
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Flyover land
Posts: 19,042
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Is there a way to put your posts on ignore but continue get PMs from you?
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No. Maybe y'all should exchange email addresses?
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09-05-2006, 05:19 PM
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#435
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For what it's worth
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: With Thumper
Posts: 6,793
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what to do, what to do.
Quote:
Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I think we've currently got a bigger problem with the Pakis, as the Muslim minority party has avowed to share its nukles with the rest of the region once Musharref is ousted (i.e. assassinated).
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So what the hell do we do if Muslims take control of that government?
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