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Old 09-13-2006, 01:02 PM   #1186
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After 9/11, this guy announced he wasn't shaving his beard until Osama bin Laden was captured.



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Old 09-13-2006, 01:08 PM   #1187
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I heard a report on tuesday that the majority of Muslims in a hell of a lot of countries do not think that Arabs caused 9/11.
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There is a body of opinion, especially among Muslims -- despite the 9/11 Commision's findings and the spread of videos puporting to show Osama bin Laden taking credit for the terrorist attacks -- that bin Laden, al-Qaida and more than 20 young Arab men did not conspire to fly airliners into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

The majority of people in Indonesia, Turkey, Egypt and Jordan say they do not believe Arabs carried out the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. A majority of British Muslims and 46 percent of French Muslims also share this view. And in Pakistan, the number is 41 percent.

The statistics come from the June 22, 2006, Pew Global Attitudes Project on "The Great Divide: How Westerners and Muslims View Each Other."
I think part of that may stem from a refusal to believe that a Muslim could do this, despite all evidence to the contrary.

My question is how do we get them to change their views on this?

(ETA: An interview with someone in Jordan suggested that Muslims may not actually think that Arabs didn't cause 9/11, but they wouldn't admit to it. Which I take as hopeful, but still there seems to be a major disconnect with reality going on.)
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Old 09-13-2006, 01:28 PM   #1188
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But I appreciate getting a perspective other than that of responsible ethical unbiased US media.
This is why I read the Sunday NYTimes. And no comiques to boot!
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Old 09-13-2006, 01:29 PM   #1189
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This is why I read the Sunday NYTimes. And no comiques to boot!
The NY Times can suck it. They recently endorsed a ban on all carry-on luggage. I think they would create an exemption for liberal rags.
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Old 09-13-2006, 01:34 PM   #1190
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I heard a report on tuesday that the majority of Muslims in a hell of a lot of countries do not think that Arabs caused 9/11. I think part of that may stem from a refusal to believe that a Muslim could do this, despite all evidence to the contrary.

My question is how do we get them to change their views on this?
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Old 09-13-2006, 01:36 PM   #1191
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There is a sports page, though its usefulness to me is limited. No Ann Landers, but on Saturdays I can read Tim Harford's column -- he's sort of the Ann Landers of economists. I miss the comics, 't'is true. But I appreciate getting a perspective other than that of the major US media.
I read it every once in a while. That was a quote from the movie Nightshift when Michael Keaton checks out a Wall Street Journal that Henry Winkler has been reading. If you haven't seen it, it is a great movie.
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The NY Times can suck it. They recently endorsed a ban on all carry-on luggage. I think they would create an exemption for liberal rags.
A couple of things,

I rarely agree with the NYTimes ed board, but I agree with that one, re: carry ons.

As for newspapers, with the WSJ being the preeminent source of print journalism in the country, I think the two runnerups, but a wide gulf behind, are the NYTimes and the WaPo. After that its all toilet paper. I would only read WaPo if I lived where I could get it delivered early Sunday morning, but I don't. NYTimes trumps them on distribution to the hinterlands, so.....
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Old 09-13-2006, 01:40 PM   #1193
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Old 09-13-2006, 01:45 PM   #1194
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After 9/11, this guy announced he wasn't shaving his beard until Osama bin Laden was captured.



Oops.

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Since he probably died within the last 2 years, capture seems doubtful.
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Old 09-13-2006, 01:46 PM   #1195
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After 9/11, this guy announced he wasn't shaving his beard until Osama bin Laden was captured.



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was he still shaving when Clinton let Osama go?
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I heard a report on tuesday that the majority of Muslims in a hell of a lot of countries do not think that Arabs caused 9/11. I think part of that may stem from a refusal to believe that a Muslim could do this, despite all evidence to the contrary.

My question is how do we get them to change their views on this?

(ETA: An interview with someone in Jordan suggested that Muslims may not actually think that Arabs didn't cause 9/11, but they wouldn't admit to it. Which I take as hopeful, but still there seems to be a major disconnect with reality going on.)
When Ann Coulter wrote about converting them to Christianity, she had a point.
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Old 09-13-2006, 03:33 PM   #1197
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President Bush said yesterday that he senses a "Third Awakening" of religious devotion in the United States that has coincided with the nation's struggle with international terrorists, a war that he depicted as "a confrontation between good and evil."
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Old 09-13-2006, 03:55 PM   #1198
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"Bring it on" wasn't catchy enough?
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"Bring it on" wasn't catchy enough?
shoot. whose going to tell Jon Voight that Angelina probably isn't getting married anytime soon?
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Been there, done that. Like most of the nags on the FB.
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