Offering constructive criticism to the social cripples in our midst since early 2005.

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Yeah, but Bush was really fucked up on coke for a lot of that time. Ya' gotta have some sympathy.

Damn straight.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
Then why do you accuse "liberal Christians" of wanting to eliminate Christ completely from American society? That makes no sense at all.

Stop being dense, or overly literal.

You prefer had I said said "church-going"?

[Not Bob]

From Slate's obituary of Southern writer Shelby Foote:

• The Abu Ghraib scandal had recently broke, and he was surprised that Bush had stood by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld after the failures of postwar planning in Iraq. "Lincoln went through six leaders of the Army before he got to Grant, whom he trusted enough to leave alone. All the others always had to look back over their shoulders. And Lincoln had to. They had wrong strategies and wrong notions of war."

[SlaveNoMore]

AliHajiSheik
I'd like to see to see the baby jebus prohibited from restricting state universities ability to conduct research

Please explain

out of biology textbooks

(1) creationism and "baby jebus" are wholly different things. Go ask the skells at Gitmo about who created the world, and

(2) I have issues with the "all or nothing" approach of both camps

and out of my bedroom.

'Tis a shame. I hear your bedroom needs the action.

Does that make me a liberal? Does it make him a pervert?

Hey, he brought the hooker to the party and made more wine. You tell me.

Is California far off from teaching the story of Xenu as an acceptable alternative to evolution?

What do you think they are fighting Arnie about?

[Pin the Tale on the Donkey]

Originally posted by Not Bob
From Slate's obituary of Southern writer Shelby Foote:

• "Lincoln went through six leaders of the Army before he got to Grant, whom he trusted enough to leave alone. All the others always had to look back over their shoulders. And Lincoln had to. They had wrong strategies and wrong notions of war."

"I cannot swallow whole the view of Lincoln as the Great Emancipator... As a law professor and civil rights lawyer and as an African-American, I am fully aware of his limited views on race. Anyone who actually reads the Emancipation Proclamation knows it was more a military document than a clarion call for justice."

-- Senator Barack Obama

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I just heard a bit of Bush's comments this morning, and when I heard him say the cowgirl thing, it seemed to me that it would have been better -- more respectful of her stature -- to have dwelled on her current position rather than where she started. I'm not saying it was offensive to me, I'm just saying the focus could have been left on what she's done for the last 24 years.

Why? Where she started says a lot about her and a lot about America. I'm assuming she grew up on a ranch, and as part of that her family did what would be described as manual labour. While there is nothing wrong with manual labour, I think our society places a premium on education and white collar jobs and when someone rises from a background of a family/parents/an earlier incarnation doing manual labour to becoming highly educated and attaining success in a professional non-manual labour environment that is lauded.

in fact, somehow I am under the delusion that this is representative of the American dream.

Last month several well known publications did series on how class mobility is severely limited if not impossible, i.e. the American dream is dead. I think refuting that by noting examples of how it has been attained and celebrating those examples is a worthwhile thing.

She was a cowgirl. Its not a deragatory term, except in some overly sensitive third parties delusions. Its descriptive. She went from that background to the highest judicial office in the country. If it was me, I would want it brought up in any semi-biographical description of me to serve as an example. It is the American dream, its her life as she portrays it and Bush was right to note it and by noting it celebrate her journey.

The left is so out touch with reality it is scary. This is on par with the DC official who used niggardly in a proper context and had to resign. Get a grip. Although as Spanky noted, its this type of stuff that solidifies the Republican majority.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Pin the Tale on the Donkey
"I cannot swallow whole the view of Lincoln as the Great Emancipator... As a law professor and civil rights lawyer and as an African-American, I am fully aware of his limited views on race. Anyone who actually reads the Emancipation Proclamation knows it was more a military document than a clarion call for justice."

-- Senator Barack Obama

He may have been a racist but at least he never called anyone a cowgirl.

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Please explain

Como se dice "stem cells" en Thetan?

(1) creationism and "baby jebus" are wholly different things. Go ask the skells at Gitmo about who created the world, and
(2) I have issues with the "all or nothing" approach of both camps

The skells at Gitmo don't control three branches of government and use them to make speeches about how opressed they are. Bear in mind the stronger the endorsement of religion your government has, the more influence they have in how its practiced. I like the nothing approach, it leaves me free to do what I want, how I want, when I want, and my tax $$ aren't spent on some asshat's 80-ton replica of the 10 commandments or litigation regarding same.

'Tis a shame. I hear your bedroom needs the action.

Hahahaha, but not true. As long as there are summers and first years, I can always find a double bagger take one for the team.

Hey, he brought the hooker to the party and made more wine. You tell me.

Galilee?

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Pin the Tale on the Donkey
"I cannot swallow whole the view of Lincoln as the Great Emancipator... As a law professor and civil rights lawyer and as an African-American, I am fully aware of his limited views on race. Anyone who actually reads the Emancipation Proclamation knows it was more a military document than a clarion call for justice."

-- Senator Barack Obama

Kind of a disappointing debut post. Nice avatar, though.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Stop being dense, or overly literal.

You prefer had I said said "church-going"?

Nope -- it doesn't make any more sense. Liberal Christians what to eliminate church-going from American society? (Church-going Christians want to eliminate Jesus?)

The Christian persecution complex is deeply bizarre. And those who spout it remind me of al-Qaeda -- substitute "the devil Bush" for "liberals" (or "Democrats", or whatever) and "Islam" for "Christ" and you are pretty much there.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Stop being dense, or overly literal.

You prefer had I said said "church-going"?

The only people who want Christ out of American are the athiests, and that's not who you're talking about. As you complain about religion, you are flat out disrespecting the religious views of a whole lot of people. I prefer my Christ without governmental involvement.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Nope -- it doesn't make any more sense. Liberal Christians what to eliminate church-going from American society? (Church-going Christians want to eliminate Jesus?)

The Christian persecution complex is deeply bizarre. And those who spout it remind me of al-Qaeda -- substitute "the devil Bush" for "liberals" (or "Democrats", or whatever) and "Islam" for "Christ" and you are pretty much there.

I think the point is that the liberals are self-loathing anti-Christian christ haters who try to pervert the effect of the establishment clause to eliminate any mention of God and his dominion over us from our public life and that intolerant bias is uncool.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
The only people who want Christ out of American are the athiests, and that's not who you're talking about. As you complain about religion, you are flat out disrespecting the religious views of a whole lot of people. I prefer my Christ without governmental involvement.

I prefer my Christ washed down with some wine, I mean, those wafers always stick to the back of my throat like a fly on a flypaper. Although when I say "wine" I don't mean that blood of Christ brand, I want something a little spicier, a little oakier, more body, maybe a Walla Walla Cab?

In lieu of that tonight the menu will feature this wine of the day (its featured at my favorite stores Friday tasting today):

Latitude 46º Clifton Cuvee 2004

Don't let the seeming youth of this wine put you off, it's intended as a positive and is. That's because this blend of 76% syrah and 24% Grenache bursts with sappy, fresh fruit and is wrapped in a texture that invites drinking with summer meals. While it is not a light wine, at 14.5% alcohol, there is bright quality that I do not find in many Washington syrah based wines.


Ty, what's on your menu?

[SlaveNoMore]

Sidd Finch
Nope -- it doesn't make any more sense. Liberal Christians what to eliminate church-going from American society? (Church-going Christians want to eliminate Jesus?)

No. I was distinguishing "church-going christians" - who may or may not be liberal - from these CINOs (Christians in Name Only) who love to proclaim that they are lapsed Catholics or Methodists or whatever, but they don't go to church, don't beleive in God, think Christianity is a joke, etc. And notwithstanding the history of this country (and the actual history behind the First Amendment), get your god out of here.

Oh, and please don't kick the Koran, it's a "sacred" book.

The Christian persecution complex is deeply bizarre. And those who spout it remind me of al-Qaeda -- substitute "the devil Bush" for "liberals" (or "Democrats", or whatever) and "Islam" for "Christ" and you are pretty much there.

It's funny. Because I see Christianity as a big punching bag, which anyone and everyone is able to pummel with critical aplomb .

However, Allah forbid anyone speak poorly publicly about any of the other "mainstream" or non-mainstream religions. The PC police will have you hanged from a Wiccan May Pole.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
The only people who want Christ out of American are the athiests, and that's not who you're talking about. As you complain about religion, you are flat out disrespecting the religious views of a whole lot of people. I prefer my Christ without governmental involvement.

Explain to me, then - and notwithstanding the Kennedy concurrence - how, according to you, the mere "display" of the Ten Commandments violates the Establishment Clause and disrespects the "religious views of a whole lot of people"?

Last I checked, "disrespect" isn't the concern addressed in the Constitution. And I haven't seen a recent draft of HR 542 "Establishment of the Christian Church of America".

Feel free to do this on your blog - if you prefer.