Making Baby Jesus Cry

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
The buses look wet. I'd like to know why they weren't used to help people leave town.

You are starting to come around Ty. there is hope for you. Read my previous post and please come to the right conclusion. Maybe Spanky can prompt you.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Spanky
Who is Rita Cosby? Should I know who she is?

she is a reporter/talking Newshead. She used to be on FoxNews. Now she is on MSNBC. She has sultry voice.

[Spanky]

Isn't anyone going to come to Ty's defense?


The major points in case you get lost in the minutae:

1) Ty said he "never defended" the Mayor and the Governor when he repeatedly did.

Is there anyone on this board that finds it believable when Ty said he never defended the Mayor or Governor?

2) Part of that defense was that he never saw one article or statement that would support the fact that the Mayor or the Governor made a mistake, although he posted many aritcles, some obscure that showed federal screw ups.

Does anyone on this believe that Ty never came across one story that critisized the Governor or Mayor, but was yet able to find multiple stories that critisized the feds.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Spanky
Isn't anyone going to come to Ty's defense?


The major points in case you get you get lost in the minutae:

1) Ty said he "never defended" the Mayor and the Governor when he repeatedly did.

Is there anyone on this board that finds it believable when Ty said he never defended the Mayor or Governor?

2) Part of that defense was that he never saw one article or statement that would support the fact that the Mayor or the Governor made a mistake, although he posted many aritcles, some obscure that showed federal screw ups.

Does anyone on this believe that Ty never came across one story that critisized the Governor or Mayor, but was yet able to find multiple stories that critisized the feds.

I am disbelief at this moment and am praying for Ty.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
I'm onboard. A beautiful illustration of the necessity of basic self reliance - 'cause you sure as shit can't rely on any of those other assholes.

my thoughts exactly

[Penske_Account]

Nine days late

Think of the lives that could have been saved.

Here's a simple equation:

The 2000 Emergency plan; plus

The Orleans parish School Board minutes plan; plus

the 250 buses; plus

A mandatory evacuation order 48 hours prior to Katrina

EQUALS

Tens of thousands of lives saved or less negatively impacted AND
the Feds unacceptable response never coming into play.

[Penske_Account]

Just testing that out to see how it looks and the verdict is it looks good.


I can't wait to start using it on a regular basis.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
Not to worry. We've all got the submarine Lotuses that Roger Moore bought in The Spy Who Loved Me.

Don't look now - but Penske (and his personal photographer and his "entourage") are on the way to help.

[SlaveNoMore]

Penske_Account
Just testing that out to see how it looks and the verdict is it looks good.

I can't wait to start using it on a regular basis.

I still want Luttig.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
This place is simple:

Penske - Insane ramblings. Unsure whether he even believes what he writes, but like a 15 year who's just discovered masturbation, he can't keep his fingers away from the keys for more than a minute.

Ty - Never met a 15 page supporting affidavit of some cobbled together factoids from a left leaning website he didn't like - didn't like to post verbatim and batter Penske with, that is. Imagine your college poligeo professor... Sometimes mainly correct.

Spanky - Fancies himself the most rational of the crowd. Prone to an occasional good point, but even when he's right, people won't admit it, because the pomposity of his prose and hamfisted delivery (Moses claimed less authority walking down from the mountain) make agreement impossible. Successful stalker, world class speaker and political dinner gadfly. Renaissance man to some, Cliff Claven of the boards to others.

Hank - Drunk at the corner of the bar. Barney of the board. Occasionally coherent and when he is, usually 15x more profound than any of the others.

Slave - Board dick - just likes infuriating liberals with odes to Reagan and quips about Hillary's prostate cancer screenings.

Me - Reads little, flips off what he perceives to be incendiary or witty comments. Largely ignored, for good reason. Never bothers to ketchup, so pompous, pedantic rants rarely, if ever relevant.

Gatti - The PB's greatest monster. The ramblings in favor of isolationist govt policies are one thing, but the Aryan Brotherhood stuff is just disturbing. Truly upsetting poster.

There secret charm behind the PB is its stupider and more inane than the FB, which occasionally reaches concensus and might actually impart some nugget of wisdom to the reader. This place is where those who think they know how to think deeply can hang out with those who want to think less than the FB requires one to do (just north of the brain function needed to sustain basal metabolism).

*sniff*

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Read to the end and you'll see where's FEMA's priorities are.

• Frustrated: Fire crews to hand out fliers for FEMA
  
  ATLANTA - Not long after some 1,000 firefighters sat down for eight hours of training, the whispering began: "What are we doing here?"
  As New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin pleaded on national television for firefighters - his own are exhausted after working around the clock for a week - a battalion of highly trained men and women sat idle Sunday in a muggy Sheraton Hotel conference room in Atlanta.
  Many of the firefighters, assembled from Utah and throughout the United States by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, thought they were going to be deployed as emergency workers.
  Instead, they have learned they are going to be community-relations officers for FEMA, shuffled throughout the Gulf Coast region to disseminate fliers and a phone number: 1-800-621-FEMA.
  On Monday, some firefighters stuck in the staging area at the Sheraton peeled off their FEMA-issued shirts and stuffed them in backpacks, saying they refuse to represent the federal agency.
  Federal officials are unapologetic.
  "I would go back and ask the firefighter to revisit his commitment to FEMA, to firefighting and to the citizens of this country," said FEMA spokeswoman Mary Hudak.
  The firefighters - or at least the fire chiefs who assigned them to come to Atlanta - knew what the assignment would be, Hudak said.
  "The initial call to action very specifically says we're looking for two-person fire teams to do community relations," she said. "So if there is a breakdown [in communication], it was likely in their own departments."
  One fire chief from Texas agreed that the call was clear to work as community-relations officers. But he wonders why the 1,400 firefighters FEMA attracted to Atlanta aren't being put to better use. He also questioned why the U.S. Department of Homeland Security - of which FEMA is a part - has not responded better to the disaster.
  The firefighters, several of whom are from Utah, were told to bring backpacks, sleeping bags, first-aid kits and Meals Ready to Eat. They were told to prepare for "austere conditions." Many of them came with awkward fire gear and expected to wade in floodwaters, sift through rubble and save lives.
  "They've got people here who are search-and-rescue certified, paramedics, haz-mat certified," said a Texas firefighter. "We're sitting in here having a sexual-harassment class while there are still [victims] in Louisiana who haven't been contacted yet."
  The firefighter, who has encouraged his superiors back home not to send any more volunteers for now, declined to give his name because FEMA has warned them not to talk to reporters.
  On Monday, two firefighters from South Jordan and two from Layton headed for San Antonio to help hurricane evacuees there. Four firefighters from Roy awaited their marching orders, crossing their fingers that they would get to do rescue and recovery work, rather than paperwork.
  "A lot of people are bickering because there are rumors they'll just be handing out fliers," said Roy firefighter Logan Layne, adding that his squad hopes to be in the thick of the action. "But we'll do anything. We'll do whatever they need us to do."
  While FEMA's community-relations job may be an important one - displaced hurricane victims need basic services and a variety of resources - it may be a job best suited for someone else, say firefighters assembled at the Sheraton.
  "It's a misallocation of resources. Completely," said the Texas firefighter.
  "It's just an under-utilization of very talented people," said South Salt Lake Fire Chief Steve Foote, who sent a team of firefighters to Atlanta. "I was hoping once they saw the level of people . . . they would shift gears a little bit."
  Foote said his crews would be better used doing the jobs they are trained to do.
  But Louis H. Botta, a coordinating officer for FEMA, said sending out firefighters on community relations makes sense. They already have had background checks and meet the qualifications to be sworn as a federal employee. They have medical training that will prove invaluable as they come across hurricane victims in the field.
  A firefighter from California said he feels ill prepared to even carry out the job FEMA has assigned him. In the field, Hurricane Katrina victims will approach him with questions about everything from insurance claims to financial assistance.
  "My only answer to them is, '1-800-621-FEMA,' " he said. "I'm not used to not being in the know."
  Roy Fire Chief Jon Ritchie said his crews would be a "little frustrated" if they were assigned to hand out phone numbers at an evacuee center in Texas rather than find and treat victims of the disaster.
  Also of concern to some of the firefighters is the cost borne by their municipalities in the wake of their absence. Cities are picking up the tab to fill the firefighters' vacancies while they work 30 days for the federal government.
  "There are all of these guys with all of this training and we're sending them out to hand out a phone number," an Oregon firefighter said. "They [the hurricane victims] are screaming for help and this day [of FEMA training] was a waste."
  Firefighters say they want to brave the heat, the debris-littered roads, the poisonous cottonmouth snakes and fire ants and travel into pockets of Louisiana where many people have yet to receive emergency aid.
  But as specific orders began arriving to the firefighters in Atlanta, a team of 50 Monday morning quickly was ushered onto a flight headed for Louisiana. The crew's first assignment: to stand beside President Bush as he tours devastated areas.

Salt Lake City Tribune

[Tyrone Slothrop]

California's Assembly approved a measure permitting gays and lesbians to marry, 41-35. The State Senate earlier approved the legislation.

Now the question is whether Gov. Arnold will veto it. Is he really a libertarian?

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Read to the end and you'll see where's FEMA's priorities are.

What a surprise. Ty, who is not paying attention to the news, and who has trouble finding criticisms of the Mayor or the Governor, finds another article criticizing the Feds. Did you come across any articles that criticized the Mayor or the Governor? Of course not, but if you did they would probably not be credible anyway, as we all know, the article is only given the benefit of the doubt (and posted) if it critisizes the Feds.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Spanky
Did you come across any articles that criticized the Mayor or the Governor?

There's the one about the DVDs I posted earlier today, dumb-ass.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Read to the end and you'll see where's FEMA's priorities are.


But as specific orders began arriving to the firefighters in Atlanta, a team of 50 Monday morning quickly was ushered onto a flight headed for Louisiana. The crew's first assignment: to stand beside President Bush as he tours devastated areas.[/list][/size]

Salt Lake City Tribune

Where is the beef? Where is the substance? This is a big so what. You deny criticism of a Mayor whose negligence resulted in thousands of deaths and this is the best you can do? Seriously?