Posting Towards Gomorrah

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by bilmore
[cartoon - nice find, btw]

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by bilmore
Insinuate? Suggest? No. I'm stating, explicitly, that some Dems, for the sake of retaking national power, have performed traitorous acts and have supported and encouraged and rewarded terrorism, and, to some extent, are directly responsible for some aspects of the situation in Iraq, Iran, NorKor, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, . . .

Hint: the days of unquestioned loyalty to the Commander-in-Chief are over; keeping the opposition's mouth shut through this kind of stuff just doesn't work anymore.

But, keep it up, and sooner or later people will start listening to the Dems on Gitmo, too.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
as the Dems take the center.

that is intriguing. if the dems do take the House, who will be speaker?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by bilmore
Lots of us are no longer willing to accept the coalition of the real "conservatives" and the religious moral police, because, frankly, aside from a few tax cuts, it's really only paid off for the moral police. While "we" have been winning elections because of the partnership, the wins have been, for a large part, empty wins for the more libertarian among us. I don't give a flying phock if gays marry - I just don't want them to pay higher taxes when they do.

Oddly enough, the moral conservatives seem to think they got the short end of the stick. Lots of lip service, but Bush has spent his political capital on tax cuts instead of banning abortion, or so they say.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by bilmore
Insinuate? Suggest? No. I'm stating, explicitly, that some Dems, for the sake of retaking national power, have performed traitorous acts and have supported and encouraged and rewarded terrorism, and, to some extent, are directly responsible for some aspects of the situation in Iraq, Iran, NorKor, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, . . .

Please identify:

(a) traitorous acts and the Democrats performing them,
(b) Democrats supporting terrorism,
(c) Democrats encouraging terrorism,
(d) Democrats rewarding terrorism,
(e) Democrats responsible for some aspects of the situation in Iraq,
(f) Democrats responsible for some aspects of the situation in Iran,
(g) Democrats responsible for some aspects of the situation in North Korea,
(h) Democrats responsible for some aspects of the situation in Syria, and
(i) Democrats responsible for some aspects of the situation in Lebanon.

I'm not going to ask about Israel 'cuz I don't want to stir up controversy.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Hint: the days of unquestioned loyalty to the Commander-in-Chief are over

This explains, of course, why the NYT gives out secret programs, (not because they're bad or anything, but because they're, you know, secret), and why CNN, for the "news value", airs snuff films of US soldiers being killed on AQ's request, and why ya'all get more upset looking at AQ's mail than at Foley's IMs to of-the-age-of-consent pages, and . . .

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
that is intriguing. if the dems do take the House, who will be speaker?

Pelosi. She doesn't thrill me, but she is not only a damned effective leader but (I hope and believe) much less of a leftist nut than you think.

She has built connections to the "Blue Dog" faction of Dems in the House (conservative Southern Dems mostly), who after this election will probably outnumber the Congressional Black Caucus, as well as the DLC types. They will have enough clout, and I think Pelosi will be wise enough, to generally try to set policy on key issues through the center of the Democratic caucus rather than at the outer edge. That may be little consolation to true conservatives, but . . .

S_A_M

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Please identify:

(a) traitorous acts and the Democrats performing them,
(b) Democrats supporting terrorism,
(c) Democrats encouraging terrorism,
(d) Democrats rewarding terrorism,
(e) Democrats responsible for some aspects of the situation in Iraq,
(f) Democrats responsible for some aspects of the situation in Iran,
(g) Democrats responsible for some aspects of the situation in North Korea,
(h) Democrats responsible for some aspects of the situation in Syria, and
(i) Democrats responsible for some aspects of the situation in Lebanon.

CLINTON, CLINTON, CLINTON, CLINTON, CLINTON!!!!!!! :bang:

AND KERRY TOO, THAT MOTHERF-R. :brick:

AND MCCAIN, WARNER, HAGEL, AND GRAHAM MIGHT AS WELL BE DEMOCRATS BECAUSE THEY ARE TRAITORS AND HATE AMERICA AND COLIN POWELL TOO THAT CLOSET LIBERAL PIECE OF SH-T!!!
:comp:



S_A_M

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I think Pelosi will be wise enough

Are we counting chickens . . .

Anyway, anyone suspect Rove is stirring up the "dems are going to win" line to get out the R vote?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by bilmore
CNN, for the "news value", airs snuff films of US soldiers being killed on AQ's request . . .

It's interesting to me that there is such a strong taboo in this country on showing pictures of dead and maimed casualties of war. This is not a new thing -- John Dower's book, War Without Mercy, describes how the media self-censored such stuff in WWII. It's not that you never see bodies, but they usually are displayed only in apparent repose. In other countries, the publication of such more graphic pictures is routine.

If I recall correctly -- frankly, my memory is a little shaky on this one -- there were some conservatives who were upset that more people didn't see pictures of people falling on 9/11, or the private security guards killed in Fallujah and strung up on the bridge there.

Is the role of the media to be a cheerleader during wartime, or is it to provide information? Seeing as how we live in a democracy, I would have thought the former.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by bilmore
This explains, of course, why the NYT gives out secret programs, (not because they're bad or anything, but because they're, you know, secret), and why CNN, for the "news value", airs snuff films of US soldiers being killed on AQ's request,

I think that has to do with what I think is a misconception (at least at the extremes) of the appropriate role for a journalist and/or the demands imposed by journalistic ethics. The exposure of the international banking surveillance program was a bad call, as I think I said at the time.

Originally posted by bilmore
and why ya'all get more upset looking at AQ's mail than at Foley's IMs to of-the-age-of-consent pages, and . . .

Don't do the y'all stuff again, B . . . if we have at least a reasonable belief that they are AQ, I have no problem looking at their mail, though I'd like to have the FISA court involved.

As for Foley, how old are your boys?

S_A_M

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Are we counting chickens . . .

Anyway, anyone suspect Rove is stirring up the "dems are going to win" line to get out the R vote?

(a) I should have said "would"

(b) He certainly is doing just that, and he is not alone.

S_A_M

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Are we counting chickens . . .

Anyway, anyone suspect Rove is stirring up the "dems are going to win" line to get out the R vote?

Yes. And not just Rove but all the little Rovelets who run individual R campagins. And the Dems are stirring it up to get out their vote ('cause there are a lot of Dems who need a little assurance that they're not just heading down to the polls to get bonked again).

Odd confluence, but there's nothing wrong with a high turnout.

[SlaveNoMore]

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
The question is where are there new coalitions to be built. I believe the Dems can prosper as a party that advocates both fiscal and social responsibility with a healthy dose of libertarianism, and can appeal to many of the conservatives disheartened by the Rs.

This is good, funny stuff.

With more posts like this, you might supplant Shifter as Board court jester.

[SlaveNoMore]

bilmore
This explains, of course, why the NYT gives out secret programs, (not because they're bad or anything, but because they're, you know, secret), and why CNN, for the "news value", airs snuff films of US soldiers being killed on AQ's request, and why ya'all get more upset looking at AQ's mail than at Foley's IMs to of-the-age-of-consent pages, and . . .

Calame buried his mea culpa very, very deep into an article having little to do with the topic.

Rather than resign in disgrace, he'll probably win a Pulitzer.