Posting Towards Gomorrah - Page 8

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-01-2006, 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
And yet the democrats seek to the block the route back to that state of freedom. The Second Amendment, the only amendment that really counts.

I think everyone who is willing to muster for militia drill and turn out in the event of enemy invasion or natural disaster should have the right to carry weapons reasonably related to that militia service.

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-01-2006, 10:15 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
My partner, who poll watched for the President in an inner city Youngstown Ohio polling place 11/2004, tells me that licensed operatives of the Democratic party were allowed to accompany voters to the polling booths to make sure they voted "correctly." no repeat of the 2000 "mistakes" to be allowed.

Aren't you troubled that freedom to vote has been abridged by the people paid by the very donations you send them "to defend freedom?"

I'm not suggesting that I like the procedure you describe here, but why would a voter want to be accompanied by someone who was going to do anything other than help them vote as they wish?

Meanwhile, I heard on the radio today allegations that voters in Democratic areas in Ohio systematically were given ballots with minor-party candidates already punched. One voter alleges that she asked for another ballot and was given another such ballot. This sounds bad, no?

Penske_Account · 09-01-2006, 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I'm not suggesting that I like the procedure you describe here, but why would a voter want to be accompanied by someone who was going to do anything other than help them vote as they wish?

Meanwhile, I heard on the radio today allegations that voters in Democratic areas in Ohio systematically were given ballots with minor-party candidates already punched. One voter alleges that she asked for another ballot and was given another such ballot. This sounds bad, no?

Depends, when you say minor-party candidates, do you mean Rs?

Hank Chinaski · 09-01-2006, 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I'm not suggesting that I like the procedure you describe here, but why would a voter want to be accompanied by someone who was going to do anything other than help them vote as they wish?

When slave masters walked slaves to the dining hall- what? they were helping them find food- had to eat anyway?

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Meanwhile, I heard on the radio today allegations that voters in Democratic areas in Ohio systematically were given ballots with minor-party candidates already punched. One voter alleges that she asked for another ballot and was given another such ballot. This sounds bad, no?

I suppose the local Dem party bosses didn't want to budget their poll instructors to spend too much time in the booths with any one voter. market efficiency.

edit: seriously? you listen to a radio station that is still moaning over 2004? you really just need to break away from the mind-poison Ty. You seem like a nice enough guy, but drugs can kill anyone.

Penske_Account · 09-01-2006, 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I think everyone who is willing to muster for militia drill and turn out in the event of enemy invasion or natural disaster should have the right to carry weapons reasonably related to that militia service.

In other words you are in favour of the continued oppression of the people. Way to hate freedom Ty!

eta: I suppose the MREs for your militia would include little boxes of CA wine? White zin?

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-01-2006, 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
When slave masters walked slaves to the dining hall- what? they were helping them find food- had to eat anyway?

Sure. Those situations are entirely analogous. For one, they both involve black people.

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edit: seriously? you listen to a radio station that is still moaning over 2004? you really just need to break away from the mind-poison Ty. You seem like a nice enough guy, but drugs can kill anyone.

I believe it was a story on Morning Edition (NPR) about a suit filed in Ohio asking a federal judge to appoint a special master to oversee the next election, but I wasn't paying close attention.

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-01-2006, 10:29 AM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
In other words you are in favour of the continued oppression of the people. Way to hate freedom Ty!

With rights come responsibilities, Penske.

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eta: I suppose the MREs for your militia would include little boxes of CA wine? White zin?

Don't be silly. California was part of Spain or Russia or something in 1789. They'll have to make do with wine made in the original 13 colonies.

Penske_Account · 09-01-2006, 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

but I wasn't paying close attention.

New party motto for the Dems?

Penske_Account · 09-01-2006, 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
With rights come responsibilities, Penske.

Exactly. And I support responsible self defence. Why do you want to suppress my rights to the same with your jackbooted militia?

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Don't be silly. California was part of Spain or Russia or something in 1789. They'll have to make do with wine made in the original 13 colonies.

CT makes some nice wines. As distinguished from little Neddy's cutNrun whines. Go Joe, go!

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-01-2006, 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Exactly. And I support responsible self defence. Why do you want to suppress my rights to the same with your jackbooted militia?

I don't think they wore jackboots in 1789.

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CT makes some nice wines.

The kind that come in the little box with the straw stuck on the side? Is that the one that you would pair with the McRib sandwich, or am I thinking of one of your Washington state boxed sparkling roses?

Hank Chinaski · 09-01-2006, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Sure. Those situations are entirely analogous. For one, they both involve black people.

But a guy standing behind voters, asking if they want help figuring out the ballot doesn't offend you? You don't see that as potentially intimadating?

Hank Chinaski · 09-01-2006, 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Don't be silly. California was part of Spain or Russia or something in 1789.

Pity is wasn't still in 1920-1990. I know that you would recognize the evils of liberalism if you had lived through it's proudest flowering. Although then we'd lose Reagan

taxwonk · 09-01-2006, 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
With rights come responsibilities, Penske.

There is a better way, you know.

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-01-2006, 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
But a guy standing behind voters, asking if they want help figuring out the ballot doesn't offend you? You don't see that as potentially intimadating?

"Offend"? Maybe. As I suggested above, I don't think they should be doing it. But I guess I don't see it as likely to intimidate, absent additional facts.

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-01-2006, 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Pity is wasn't still in 1920-1990. I know that you would recognize the evils of liberalism if you had lived through it's proudest flowering. Although then we'd lose Reagan

The people killed in the Spanish Civil War and the repression of Franco's regime cannot exactly be chalked up to the evils of liberalism.

I think we can all agree that Stalin's Russia was no bed of roses either. Since y'all are opposed to ever appeasing terrorists, I take you think we should have gone to war with the USSR in 1939?