Posting Towards Gomorrah

[andViolins]

I thought that in the spirit of labor day, I would provide a bit of "Big Business" comic relief (at the expense of my friends in labor)



aV

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by andViolins
I thought that in the spirit of labor day, I would provide a bit of "Big Business" comic relief (at the expense of my friends in labor)



aV

Bravo! POTD. Of course the left will never admit to their culpability for the damage unions have done to our once great nation or the cause of freedom worldwide. While its not bankrupt, per se, the destruction of public education in America should be noted as a footnote to that sign, although I guess the union's stupidifcation of America's children makes it less likely they will have the cashmoola for airline travel or cars or other things made of steel......

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Typically deceptive and useless.

You're too hard on Spanky. I think he just didn't understand.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I think he just didn't understand.

you know, at some point as the number of people with poor hearing increases, you might want to consider whether its the speaker's fault.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
you know, at some point as the number of people with poor hearing increases, you might want to consider whether its the speaker's fault.

Does this mean that you agree with Spanky's post?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Does this mean that you agree with Spanky's post?

that mugg must have 5000 posts. which one?

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
that mugg must have 5000 posts. which one?

The one you were defending, where Spanky said that use of the median in a chart or table is deceptive, because it doesn't allow for the offsetting effect of the use of the mean. That post.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
you know, at some point as the number of people with poor hearing increases, you might want to consider whether its the speaker's fault.

Since you have some form of scientific literacy, why don't you explain to Spanky what he didn't learn in junior high school about medians.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by taxwonk
The one you were defending, where Spanky said that use of the median in a chart or table is deceptive, because it doesn't allow for the offsetting effect of the use of the mean. That post.

Is that what his issue was? I thought he was suggesting that referring to "medians" is somehow deceptive, apart from the failure to talk about (more politically pleasing) means.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
There's no inconsistency at all between the observation that mean incomes are rising but median incomes are falling. You have to make an argument as to why people should disregard the latter in favor of the former.

If you don't disregard the latter in favor of the former, you are on the side of the terrorists.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Since you have some form of scientific literacy, why don't you explain to Spanky what he didn't learn in junior high school about medians.

Can you define median? Spanky astutely pointed out how it could have a whole great big range of definitions. I clicked the link that you provided but all I got was a Netflix ad, which I don't think is it.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Is that what his issue was? I thought he was suggesting that referring to "medians" is somehow deceptive, apart from the failure to talk about (more politically pleasing) means.

I think we're saying the same thing. The crux of Spanky's agrument was that, because a median, which merely denoted the point at which there are an equal number of points greater and lesser in the sample population, doesn't allow the fact that some people are earning far more (e.g., Hank, Penske and Spanky) to swallow up the fact that more people are earning less, it is deceptive.

To rephrase, Spanky is calling the chart misleading because it proves that more people are earning less than are earning more. He finds it more accurate to say that it doesn't matter that more wealth and income is being concentrated in fewer hands, because his is one of the hands it is concentrating in.

A socialist would argue that this is proof that income needs to be taken away from those with more to give it to those with less, which Spanky would find to be inherently unfair and economically inefficient.

A capitalist would simply say that the chart indicated that the fruits of the economy are being shared by fewer people, and that a policy which is based on the premise that if you place fewer burdens on those with wealth, they will raise the playing field for all.

A Republican in the mold of many, but not all, of the Republican posters here would say that they got theirs, so fuck the folks who didn't.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
If you don't disregard the latter in favor of the former, you are on the side of the terrorists.

It's not that he's on the side of the terrorists, so much as that he's a Godless socialist who would undermine our American Way of Life. This is actually worse than being a terrorist, because you can't profile socialists. Well, except for the hippies.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Can you define median? Spanky astutely pointed out how it could have a whole great big range of definitions. I clicked the link that you provided but all I got was a Netflix ad, which I don't think is it.

Odd -- I don't get the Netflix ad at all.

The link is to Merriam-Webster's on-line dictionary, at http://www.webster.com/. Definition 2a is:

• a value in an ordered set of values below and above which there is an equal number of values or which is the arithmetic mean of the two middle values if there is no one middle number

To make it concrete, if you have five students in a class with test scores of 100, 76, 75, 74, and 70, the mean score is 79, but the median is 75.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by taxwonk
I think we're saying the same thing. The crux of Spanky's agrument was that, because a median, which merely denoted the point at which there are an equal number of points greater and lesser in the sample population, doesn't allow the fact that some people are earning far more (e.g., Hank, Penske and Spanky) to swallow up the fact that more people are earning less, it is deceptive.

To rephrase, Spanky is calling the chart misleading because it proves that more people are earning less than are earning more. He finds it more accurate to say that it doesn't matter that more wealth and income is being concentrated in fewer hands, because his is one of the hands it is concentrating in.

A socialist would argue that this is proof that income needs to be taken away from those with more to give it to those with less, which Spanky would find to be inherently unfair and economically inefficient.

A capitalist would simply say that the chart indicated that the fruits of the economy are being shared by fewer people, and that a policy which is based on the premise that if you place fewer burdens on those with wealth, they will raise the playing field for all.

A Republican in the mold of many, but not all, of the Republican posters here would say that they got theirs, so fuck the folks who didn't.

I believe that was the gist of Penkse's first post, with the additional twist that he didn't need to actual see what we were talking about to react to the great news.