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09-13-2006, 07:10 PM
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#1216
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Frogmarch, Part 19
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
You've got my proxy on this.
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eta: Is this your first matchup with slave?
Chinask - 1, slave - 0.
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"More than two decades later, it is hard to imagine the Revolutionary War coming out any other way."
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09-13-2006, 07:11 PM
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#1217
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 11,873
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Frogmarch, Part 19
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Why would Iran need to buy any? They're making their own.
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Garr. It's late. You know I meant Iraq. Plus, I have nice hair (it's at home in a box)
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09-13-2006, 07:13 PM
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#1218
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
Posts: 9,477
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Frogmarch, Part 19
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Tyrone Slothrop
If Armitage committed a crime -- and at this point, I no longer remember the elements -- then he should go to jail. Maybe he's not out of those woods. I have no idea what his deal with Fitzpatrick is.
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There was never ANY crime - until Libby got tripped up and apparently perjured himself. Therein lies the rub.
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But how does all this change what Rove did?
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Good lord.
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09-13-2006, 07:14 PM
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#1219
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
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Frogmarch, Part 19
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Shape Shifter
eta: Is this your first matchup with slave?
Chinask - 1, slave - 0.
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I'm taller than him.
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09-13-2006, 07:34 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,062
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Frogmarch, Part 19
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
There was never ANY crime - until Libby got tripped up and apparently perjured himself. Therein lies the rub.
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You don't know that. And in any event Armitage and Novak's latest don't change the analysis.
Do you not realize that Fitz knew Armitage's story months (years?) ago? Armitage fessed up to him immediately.
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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09-13-2006, 07:53 PM
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#1221
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Corner Office
Posts: 86,133
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Frogmarch, Part 19
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I'm taller than him.
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I think SS will agree with me when I say there is no point trying to converse with you on this topic until you read the book.

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I will not suffer a fool- but I do seem to read a lot of their posts
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09-13-2006, 08:21 PM
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#1222
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
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Frogmarch, Part 19
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Tyrone Slothrop
Do you not realize that Fitz knew Armitage's story months (years?) ago? Armitage fessed up to him immediately.
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And let Wilson, et. al. continue to tar, feather and pillory Rove, Cheney and the entire administration in the press.
Douchebag.
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09-13-2006, 08:22 PM
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#1223
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
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Frogmarch, Part 19
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Hank Chinaski
I think SS will agree with me when I say there is no point trying to converse with you on this topic until you read the book.
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09-13-2006, 08:37 PM
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WacKtose Intolerant
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: PenskeWorld
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Frogmarch, Part 19
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
And let Wilson, et. al. continue to tar, feather and pillory Rove, Cheney and the entire administration in the press.
Douchebag.
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Slave has my proxy on everything related to this Wilson/Rove/Plame/Armitage thing.
By the by, any timetable on Rove's impending indictment?
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Since I'm a righteous man, I don't eat ham;
I wish more people was alive like me
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09-13-2006, 08:37 PM
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#1225
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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Frogmarch, Part 19
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
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dissent. staying up hugging SS as he blubbers about what really scares him is not the same as having actually read the book.
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I will not suffer a fool- but I do seem to read a lot of their posts
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09-13-2006, 08:47 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Frogmarch, Part 19
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
And let Wilson, et. al. continue to tar, feather and pillory Rove, Cheney and the entire administration in the press.
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There must be some reason why you think that the fact that Armitage was the first leaker makes the things done by Rove and Cheney OK, but I still can't figure out what it is.
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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09-13-2006, 08:49 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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Frogmarch, Part 19
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
There must be some reason why you think that the fact that Armitage was the first leaker makes the things done by Rove and Cheney OK, but I still can't figure out what it is.
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you keep using her name and mentioning she was CIA. Are you being bad or is it just the first one who is culpable?
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I will not suffer a fool- but I do seem to read a lot of their posts
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09-13-2006, 08:50 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pop goes the chupacabra
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Frogmarch, Part 19
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
There must be some reason why you think that the fact that Armitage was the first leaker makes the things done by Rove and Cheney OK, but I still can't figure out what it is.
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Defense 1: No controlling legal authority makes leaking the name illegal.
Defense 2: The name was leaked by someone else already, so any further statements were not making public the name of a secret agent.
Both defenses now work, so nothing wrong was done.
I think.
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09-13-2006, 09:16 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Frogmarch, Part 19
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Defense 1: No controlling legal authority makes leaking the name illegal.
Defense 2: The name was leaked by someone else already, so any further statements were not making public the name of a secret agent.
Both defenses now work, so nothing wrong was done.
I think.
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#1 doesn't depend on anything Armitage said.
As for #2, can it really be true that whether disclosing (a sort of) classified information is legal or not depends on whether someone else has disclosed it? Possibly, but I'll wait for Slave to quote the statute.
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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09-13-2006, 09:18 PM
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#1230
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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Frogmarch, Part 19
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
#1 doesn't depend on anything Armitage said.
As for #2, can it really be true that whether disclosing (a sort of) classified information is legal or not depends on whether someone else has disclosed it? Possibly, but I'll wait for Slave to quote the statute.
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until you get Slave's answer maybe you should go delete all your posts here?
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