Posting Towards Gomorrah

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
In principle I am against the death penalty. The irreversible uncompensable costs of a mistake are too great.

I agree.

I wouldn't make the conditions of life in prison quite so severe as those you recommend, however, because that would just drive the prisoners insane. I do want our penal system to be a bit ahead of 18th Century Europe. But then, I'm a "liberal."

S_A_M

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
In principle I am against the death penalty. The irreversible uncompensable costs of a mistake are too great.

I would like to see it done away with and replaced with life in prison, for those who merit the severest penalty, where the prisoner spends all day, each and every day in a cell big enough to house a single bed and a hole in the floor for a toilet. Three meals a day through a slot in the wall. No TV, no radio, no electronics and no books. Monthly visits from family or counsel would be okay.

But you'd let him out for the occassional water-boarding, no? Or are you more a strappado kind of guy?

[SlaveNoMore]

Secret_Agent_Man
Who'd have thought that it would be Penske who would post the conclusive proof that William Jefferson Clinton bore arms in the service of this Nation in a way that his successor never did?

You're on a roll today.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
That's offensive to the military SAM. You are better than this.

It was offensive to Bush, mostly.

[It also misidentified the uniform involved, which I'm pretty sure was some kind of police special ops. The military wasn't involved in the Elian grab (which I also firmly believe was the right thing to do -- for reasons I aired thoroughly at the time.)]

S_A_M

[SlaveNoMore]

taxwonk
....yet not be opposed to the complete abdication by the Executive Branch of its duties protecting human rights everywhere and the privacy rights of our citizens.

Please file this post under both "Hyperbolic Bush-bashing" and "Leftist Fear-mongering"

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
You're on a roll today.

"Jose Cuervo, you are a friend of mine."

S_A_M:beer: :rock:

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
You're on a roll today.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I am opposed to to the complete abdication by the Executive Branch of its duties protecting human rights everywhere and the privacy rights of our citizens. My opposition is what spurred me on to call the Clinton Administration an oppressive regime for its murder of innocent Americans seeking the privacy and exercise of their first amendment rights to worship. Also, that administratioons complete abdications of the protection of Elian's human rights remains appallling.

How can you support Ds who murder our own American citisens? Is it the same reason that the Ds support the appeasement and inflation of non-existent rights of foreign terrorists and enemy combatants who seek to destroy our freedoms?

I find your lack of respect for the law enforcement officers of our nation rather disturbing. I expected you to incorrectly call David Koresh and his co-conspirators innocent.

After all, what's a little conspiring to take up arms against the United States among friends? Treason? Yeah, but it's okay because it was hate and crime tempered with sexual abuse of children and the physical and sexual abuse of women. As long as it allows you to continue your campaign of hatred and opposition to the duly-elected representatives of the people and post stupid doctored pictures.

Why it's enough to make a President want the freedom to spy on his own people and callously sacrifice the lives of thousands of young Americans to salve the burning need for adrenalin that he uses to sublimate his cocaine addiction.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Please file this post under both "Hyperbolic Bush-bashing" and "Leftist Fear-mongering"

I'm sorry. I'm afraid it's clearly under the heading of "throwing penske's own brand of shit back at him to highlight how silly it is." I'd change the classification, but you'd need to be right in order to persuade me.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Penske_Account

I would like to see it done away with and replaced with life in prison, for those who merit the severest penalty, where the prisoner spends all day, each and every day in a cell big enough to house a single bed and a hole in the floor for a toilet. Three meals a day through a slot in the wall. No TV, no radio, no electronics and no books. Monthly visits from family or counsel would be okay.

Isn't that a fairly accurate description of the SuperMax prison? Although maybe they get a Bible or Koran. Not sure they even get visitors.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by taxwonk
I find your lack of respect for the law enforcement officers of our nation rather disturbing. I expected you to incorrectly call David Koresh and his co-conspirators innocent.

After all, what's a little conspiring to take up arms against the United States among friends? Treason? Yeah, but it's okay because it was hate and crime tempered with sexual abuse of children and the physical and sexual abuse of women. As long as it allows you to continue your campaign of hatred and opposition to the duly-elected representatives of the people and post stupid doctored pictures.

Why it's enough to make a President want the freedom to spy on his own people and callously sacrifice the lives of thousands of young Americans to salve the burning need for adrenalin that he uses to sublimate his cocaine addiction.

Please file this post under both "Hyperbolic Bush-bashing" and "Leftist hate-America-first-mongering" It's sad that despite the benefits of the last 26 years of mostly patriotic American rule by Presidents of the right ideology of Freedom and the American ideal that the left is so bitter and hateful of America.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Isn't that a fairly accurate description of the SuperMax prison? Although maybe they get a Bible or Koran. Not sure they even get visitors.

not as Penske understands it. in all of Penske's prison fantasies he is able to mingle with the other guys IYKWIMAITTYD.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
It was offensive to Bush, mostly.

[It also misidentified the uniform involved, which I'm pretty sure was some kind of police special ops. The military wasn't involved in the Elian grab (which I also firmly believe was the right thing to do -- for reasons I aired thoroughly at the time.)]

S_A_M

There was a thing on NPR a few weeks ago, when it looked like Castro was about to kick the bucket, about the Cuban Americans feelings about relationships with Cuba. They tended in the past to be hardliners about the embargo. A lot of them were shocked that they'd misjudged the Elian Gonzales situation so badly and that the rest of the country was insistant that we put aside politics for the sake of a little boy and his father.

Course, pissed off Cubans who voted for Bush probably are to be thanked for Florida's being such a close race in 2000, so Penske's love for the boy is understandable.

ET fix mixed metaphor for death.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
and that the rest of the country was insistant that we put aside politics for the sake of a little boy and his father.

huh?

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Isn't that a fairly accurate description of the SuperMax prison? Although maybe they get a Bible or Koran. Not sure they even get visitors.

As far as my understanding of it goes, yes.