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Old 09-26-2006, 05:13 PM   #2161
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I'm sorry. I'm afraid it's clearly under the heading of "throwing penske's own brand of shit back at him to highlight how silly it is." I'd change the classification, but you'd need to be right in order to persuade me.
You support the government burning innocent American women and children alive solely for their choice of their free exercise of religion but yet do not support the President in carrying out a war against foreign terrorists and enemy combatants but rather support the appeasement of those enemies and creation of a new set of rights for them and you think the classification doesn't work? Why do the Ds want to destroy our country? Why not just move to France with a community of like ideals?
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Old 09-26-2006, 05:15 PM   #2162
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You support the government burning innocent American women and children alive solely for their choice of their free exercise of religion
Isn't that what you advocate for the radical Islamofascists or whatever it is you're calling them these days?
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Old 09-26-2006, 05:16 PM   #2163
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It seemed pretty clear from the polling at the time that most people thought that Elian should be reunited with his only remaining parent. Hardliner Cuban Americans were very surprised that the rest of the country didn't immediately take their side.
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Old 09-26-2006, 05:16 PM   #2164
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Isn't that a fairly accurate description of the SuperMax prison? Although maybe they get a Bible or Koran. Not sure they even get visitors.
I am not sure, I am not a penal expert. Certainly, if it is, that brand of prison is not widespread enough.

As for visitors, I think that they should be allowed, it gives the prisoners an emotionally charged window into alll that they don't and never will have.
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Isn't that what you advocate for the radical Islamofascists or whatever it is you're calling them these days?
No. I advocate a just war against those foreign terrorists and enemy combatants who fight us on the battelfield of the GWOT. Not the wholesale destruction of a religious group peacefully worshipping and exercising their first and second amendment rights.
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Old 09-26-2006, 05:21 PM   #2166
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It seemed pretty clear from the polling at the time that most people thought that Elian should be reunited with his only remaining parent. Hardliner Cuban Americans were very surprised that the rest of the country didn't immediately take their side.
Many Americans are spoiled babies who have nothing but disrespect for their G-d given freedoms. The left who kidnapped Elian and sentenced him to a life of oppression should spend a week or two in a Cuban gulag and see what real torture looks like,
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Old 09-26-2006, 05:23 PM   #2167
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You support the government burning innocent American women and children alive solely for their choice of their free exercise of religion but yet do not support the President in carrying out a war against foreign terrorists and enemy combatants but rather support the appeasement of those enemies and creation of a new set of rights for them and you think the classification doesn't work? Why do the Ds want to destroy our country? Why not just move to France with a community of like ideals?
French prisons are like you like. See Catch Me If You Can.
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No. I advocate a just war against those foreign terrorists and enemy combatants who fight us on the battelfield of the GWOT.
Oh, like the Branch Davidians.

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Not the wholesale destruction of a religious group peacefully worshipping and exercising their first and second amendment rights.
The "peaceful exercise" of the BDs resulted in the death of four federal agents. Why do you dishonor the memory of these patriots? Why do you show no respect for the families of these slain patriots? Why do you hate America?
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I'm sorry. I'm afraid it's clearly under the heading of "throwing penske's own brand of shit back at him to highlight how silly it is." I'd change the classification, but you'd need to be right in order to persuade me.
Cross- reference?
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Many Americans are spoiled babies who have nothing but disrespect for their G-d given freedoms. The left who kidnapped Elian and sentenced him to a life of oppression should spend a week or two in a Cuban gulag and see what real torture looks like,
Why do you have no respect for the family, and for a father's love for his child? Why do you want politicians in Washington interfering in this family's life?
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Old 09-26-2006, 05:32 PM   #2172
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As for visitors, I think that they should be allowed, it gives the prisoners an emotionally charged window into alll that they don't and never will have.
Shouldn't you let them watch TV--you know, Ten Teen Teases, or some such porn--on the same ground?
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Why do you have no respect for the family, and for a father's love for his child? Why do you want politicians in Washington interfering in this family's life?
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Isn't that a fairly accurate description of the SuperMax prison? Although maybe they get a Bible or Koran. Not sure they even get visitors.
And unlike Camp Cupcake down in Gitmo.
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You support the government burning innocent American women and children alive solely for their choice of their free exercise of religion but yet do not support the President in carrying out a war against foreign terrorists and enemy combatants but rather support the appeasement of those enemies and creation of a new set of rights for them and you think the classification doesn't work? Why do the Ds want to destroy our country? Why not just move to France with a community of like ideals?
Why do you hate me so? Is it because I am the conscience you lost when you grew old and bitter? Is it when you purchased the handgun and began to fantasize about going on a shooting spree at the local Starbucks? Is it when we dined al fresco and you realized that your preternatuarlly youthful appearance could never compete with the quietly mesmerizing aura of my distinguished and graceful aging?

Come back, Penske. Rediscover the joy of belief in the inherent dignity of men and women. Embrace the notion that all men are created equal, but not all are born into the same world. Come to terms with your urge to kiss and fondle Hank in the back room of Motor City Bagels.

All is not lost. You can redeem your soul.
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