Posting Towards Gomorrah

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by soup sandwich
Of course the release was timed to increase damage to the Rs in the next election (they can't say this so instead it will be "because of the sensitive nature of these allegations, we had to be abosolutely sure of the facts"). I think you know this already but are just looking for a D to admit it. Well I freely admit it. The politicians may have to make up pretenses for thsi stuff, but I don't see why we must do it on this board.

But it still seems that the Rs had the information first and could have controlled how it was released. The Rs fucked up and the Ds took advantage. We'll see how it affects the elections.

I think everyone should stop holding back on this stuff and just get it out in the open.

So, Spanky said there were a series of indictments coming down after the elections, mostly of Rs - can we just get those taken care off and everything out in the open? Why would justice hold back on these things?

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

“He deceived his in-state newspaper when they each questioned him,” Speaker J. Dennis Hastert said Tuesday. “He deceived me, too.”

Umm, if hastert was deceived, doesn't that mean he asked Foley? And doesn't that mean he knew enough to ask?

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Actually Ty, what's gonna hurt is the fifth word in the next sentence:



July?????

And have the stones to suggest this wasn't an orchestrated hatchet job timed exactly one month before Election Day?

Oh yeah, painful.

God forbid that anyone do any research or investigate the story to confirm the information.

I'm sure you wouldn't have been critical of an incomplete or incorrect story in July.

S_A_M

[eta: This is just a Beltway story, but it sure is fun -- and it probably hands the Dems Foley's old seat.]

[SlaveNoMore]

Secret_Agent_Man
Oh yeah, painful.

God forbid that anyone do any research or investigate the story to confirm the information.

I'm sure you wouldn't have been critical of an incomplete or incorrect story in July.

S_A_M

And yet they still fucked it up by quoting IMs to an 18 year old.

You aren't really this stupid, are you?

PS - the more I read about this non-scandal, scandal, I find it sad that the GOP is so quick to throw its own members under the bus (see Foley, Livingston), when the Dems couldn't care less when their own scandals are revealed (see McGreevey staying in office; Studds and Frank - the same; the Clinton "rose garden" speech)

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
And yet they still fucked it up by quoting IMs to an 18 year old.

You aren't really this stupid, are you?

PS - the more I read about this non-scandal, scandal, I find it sad that the GOP is so quick to throw its own members under the bus (see Foley, Livingston), when the Dems couldn't care less when their own scandals are revealed (see McGreevey staying in office; Studds and Frank - the same; the Clinton "rose garden" speech)

How is your towel?

[SlaveNoMore]

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I think everyone should stop holding back on this stuff and just get it out in the open.

So, Spanky said there were a series of indictments coming down after the elections, mostly of Rs - can we just get those taken care off and everything out in the open? Why would justice hold back on these things?

I keep waiting for that Rove frogmarch, personally.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
And yet they still fucked it up by quoting IMs to an 18 year old.

You aren't really this stupid, are you?

PS - the more I read about this non-scandal, scandal, I find it sad that the GOP is so quick to throw its own members under the bus (see Foley, Livingston), when the Dems couldn't care less when their own scandals are revealed (see McGreevey staying in office; Studds and Frank - the same; the Clinton "rose garden" speech)

My brother and I were saying the same thing this morning. We were sort of surprised that this thing has gone on longer than the first day or so. I suppose republican gay sex scandals have more legs due to republican views on gay sex.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I keep waiting for that Rove frogmarch, personally.

Really? I would find a Cheney or Rumsfeld march much more satisfying. Rove is just the dog (sometimes) on the leash. Cheney and Rummy get to hold the leash. But I'm not expecting either any time soon.

The Rs should have taken twice the hit they did on DeLay and half the hit they have on Foley. I ascribe it to their alliance with the religious right - only the Ds beat up on them for corruption, but their own friends and supporters get on their case where sex, especially gay sex, is involved. Same thing happens if an R inhaled. But, you guys made your bed.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
How is your towel?

How old were you when you first met slave?

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
And yet they still fucked it up by quoting IMs to an 18 year old.

You aren't really this stupid, are you?

PS - the more I read about this non-scandal, scandal, I find it sad that the GOP is so quick to throw its own members under the bus (see Foley, Livingston), when the Dems couldn't care less when their own scandals are revealed (see McGreevey staying in office; Studds and Frank - the same; the Clinton "rose garden" speech)

Foley wasn't thrown under the bus, he jumped. Livingston hadn't been officially elected speaker yet, so I guess he jumped before he was pushed from that job, but he could have kept his seat, and chose not to.

And do you really think "but some of the IMs were to an 18 year old" is much of a leg to stand on?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Not Bob
Foley wasn't thrown under the bus, he jumped. Livingston hadn't been officially elected speaker yet, so I guess he jumped before he was pushed from that job, but he could have kept his seat, and chose not to.

And do you really think "but some of the IMs were to an 18 year old" is much of a leg to stand on?

this is all really really important, i know- but is it really more important than a California Public School teaching Islam?

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Not Bob
Foley wasn't thrown under the bus, he jumped. Livingston hadn't been officially elected speaker yet, so I guess he jumped before he was pushed from that job, but he could have kept his seat, and chose not to.

And do you really think "but some of the IMs were to an 18 year old" is much of a leg to stand on?

Hell, according to Novak, he wanted to jump last year, but Reynolds persuaded him to stay.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
the more I read about this non-scandal, scandal, I find it sad that the GOP is so quick to throw its own members under the bus (see Foley, Livingston)

I don't think Foley was thrown under the bus. I think he quit because he knew that he'd never survive the disclosure of the IMs.

eta: And as RT points out, he already wanted out.

But the scandal would have been a minor one if it had stopped there. What has made it major, and has prompted a continuing stream of stories and coverage, is the mismanagement and infighting of the GOP congressional leadership. Hastert did a terrible job in his initial statements, and things have only gotten worse. Various Republicans are trying to throw each other under the bus. Boehner keeps changing his story to make Hastert look bad. Reynolds' chief of staff either quit or was fired, and didn't say anything at first, but then Hastert had the bright idea of trying to make him the fall guy, which prompted him to say more things making Hastert look bad.

Of course, somehow all of this is the Democrats' fault.

[SlaveNoMore]

Not Bob
Foley wasn't thrown under the bus, he jumped. Livingston hadn't been officially elected speaker yet, so I guess he jumped before he was pushed from that job, but he could have kept his seat, and chose not to.

And do you really think "but some of the IMs were to an 18 year old" is much of a leg to stand on?

Studds actually banged "underage"pages, was vehemently defended by the Gay community because the age of consent was 16 in DC, remained in Congress for 13[?] years, and was even honored by Clinton by being named to serve on the National AIDS Quilt commitee.

Foley is a pervert who "attempted" to engage in cybersex.

The guy is clearly a creep - and it's not a shame to see him go - but the timing of the leak and this hypocritical moral outrage from the Left is staggering.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
this is all really really important, i know- but is it really more important than a California Public School teaching Islam?

In Odessa, Texas, the public schools are teaching the Bible. I thought your party wanted religion back in the classroom.