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Old 10-18-2006, 03:16 PM   #3271
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Absolutely, there is _something_ wrong, but there is a notable difference between plutonium and enriched uranium weapons. (explosive yield, efficiency, critical mass, etc.)
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Old 10-18-2006, 03:17 PM   #3272
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I think its the most important issue of all.

Regardless of what Clinton or Bush knew or didnt know, it has been next to impossible (if not just impossible) to do anything about North Korea when both China and our purported ally to the South have continued to prop up the North from fear that their borders will be overrun someday.

Sure enough. Sucks that China holds all our debt, or we could be tougher with them.
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Old 10-18-2006, 03:21 PM   #3273
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Sure enough. Sucks that China holds all our debt, or we could be tougher with them.
Who ran up all those bills?
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Old 10-18-2006, 03:22 PM   #3274
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Sure enough. Sucks that China holds all our debt, or we could be tougher with them.
maybe offer them some missile guidence technology to get them to play ball?
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Old 10-18-2006, 03:26 PM   #3275
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did you ask Ty if it was okay to post this?
No way, pal! I'm stepping out.

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Old 10-18-2006, 03:32 PM   #3276
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maybe offer them some missile guidence technology to get them to play ball?
Hell, no need for that!

Those bitches better watch out before we put THEM in the "Axis."

Then we'll say lots of mean stuff about them. That'll show 'em. :bang:

Just look at what happened to Iran and North Korea.

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Old 10-18-2006, 03:53 PM   #3277
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Hell, no need for that!

Those bitches better watch out before we put THEM in the "Axis."

Then we'll say lots of mean stuff about them. That'll show 'em. :bang:

Just look at what happened to Iran and North Korea.

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Old 10-18-2006, 04:03 PM   #3278
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Reagan called the Soviet Union an Evil Empire and look what happened to it. :trout:
It was a C list empire anyways.
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Old 10-18-2006, 04:12 PM   #3279
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Why does it matter that the bomb was made of Plutonium. Why does it matter that they stopped producing plutonium for eight years. The whole point of the process is to stop them from developing nuclear weapons. If they continue to develop nuclear weapons then there is something wrong.

Clinton signed a treaty to stop them from developing weapons and they continued to do it. If they hadn't blown up a Plutonium bomb they would have eventually blown up a Uranium one.
Suppose we used a computer virus to slow their development of nuclear weapons by eight years. Do you see any benefit at all to the US from that? Or is it meaningless because eventually they can work around the problem?
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Sure enough. Sucks that China holds all our debt, or we could be tougher with them.
Default on the fuckers. South Americans do it all the time.
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Suppose we used a computer virus to slow their development of nuclear weapons by eight years. Do you see any benefit at all to the US from that? Or is it meaningless because eventually they can work around the problem?
You advocate hacking a nation, but not listening in on foreign phone calls involving suspected terrorists with no expectation of privacy.

funny dat.
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Old 10-18-2006, 04:14 PM   #3282
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Former President Jimmy Carter said Tuesday night that an agreement he brokered 12 years ago for North Korea to halt nuclear weapons development is “in the wastebasket." Carter contends the Bush administration turned its back on the deal and labeled the isolated nation part of an “axis of evil.”

But Carter, speaking at a previously scheduled panel discussion on his 1994 mediation, said he does not foresee the current dispute over North Korea’s test of a nuclear bomb leading to war.

Carter said that in 1994, war “appeared to be imminent” if the Clinton administration had pushed sanctions against North Korea through the UN Security Council. But he said it is less likely now. Although North Korea branded sanctions imposed by the security council as an act of war, Carter said they are not as stringent as those proposed by the Clinton administration 12 years ago.

Carter appeared with his wife, Rosalynn, and former Ambassador to South Korea James Laney in the panel discussion at The Carter Center in Atlanta. They were joined by Marion Creekmore, author of the book “A Moment of Crisis,” about his 1994 trip with the Carters to Pyongyang.

Laney said it appeared that war was certain before Carter’s trip, which demonstrated to him that every opportunity for peaceful resolution of a crisis must be used.
What does your post subject line have to do with the content of your post?
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Old 10-18-2006, 04:17 PM   #3283
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You advocate hacking a nation, but not listening in on foreign phone calls involving suspected terrorists with no expectation of privacy.

funny dat.
Suppose that I posed a hypothetical question? Could I do that without "advocating" the hypothetical situation involved?
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Old 10-18-2006, 04:41 PM   #3284
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What does your post subject line have to do with the content of your post?
not asking you to buy into Carter's dementia, but wasn't putting the deal "in the wastebasket" a seemingly good idea? The alternative was to give NK even more technology.
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Old 10-18-2006, 04:54 PM   #3285
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say a 1st terrorist detonates a plutonium based weapon at Grand Central Station- you are at 45th and 3rd.

a second terrorist detonates a Uranium based bomb at LA City hall. you are in Chinatown.

compare and contrast the two experiences. be sure to highlight how one may be better than the other.
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