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10-24-2006, 03:11 PM
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#3691
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Why, Bilmore, Why?
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Originally posted by Spanky
actually should read "diverting attention from his fondness for Perjury, in this case lying directly to a federal judge under oath, and obstruction of justice."
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Thanks for clarifying what bilmore was talking about.
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10-24-2006, 03:12 PM
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#3692
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I am beyond a rank!
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Originally posted by Spanky
Wow. That is quite a statment. Are not the members of the American media U.S. citizens? Shouldn't they want to aid the American military and not provide aid and comfort to the enemy?
This reminds me of one of those Harvard seminars they showed on PBS where they had all these important people and some Harvard Law professor posed difficult questions. The Law professor asked Peter Jennings if he was imbedded with a North Kosanese Unit (Kosanese were the mythical enemy at war with the US) and they were approaching an American unit for an ambush, would he warn the American unit. At first Jennings said he wouldn't becuase his job was just to report, not get invovlved. But when the other panelists explained what an absurd position that was, he relented and said he would do whatever he could to warn the American unit of the coming ambush.
He realized that (even though he is from Canada) as an American citizen (or resident) his first loyalty is to the United States and second came performing the duties of his job.
Do you disagree with that.
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I don't disagree with that. Some of us, however, still believe that the right to criticize the Administration is part of "being an American."
Even during wartime, perhaps particularly during wartime when the consequences of the Administration's staggering incompetence are so high.
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10-24-2006, 03:15 PM
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#3693
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WacKtose Intolerant
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: PenskeWorld
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Why, Bilmore, Why?
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Originally posted by Spanky
actually should read "diverting attention from his fondness for Perjury, in this case lying directly to a federal judge under oath, and obstruction of justice."
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Its mindboggling to see that the Dems still assert that perjury (as well as rape and manslaughter) is not a criminal offence if it is commited by a member of the faux-intellectually elitist liberal-demo-socialist crowd that runs the DNC.
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Since I'm a righteous man, I don't eat ham;
I wish more people was alive like me
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10-24-2006, 03:17 PM
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#3694
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For what it's worth
Join Date: Feb 2005
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The Religion of Growth
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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
So, that's the story as I understand it. I'll let you fill me in on Japan.
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Ever since the end of the War Japan has been obsessed with inflation (at one time they suffered hyperinflation just like Germany) and so they have been unbelievably cautious about inflation. Sometimes even suffering deflation.
Until the late 80s they experience pretty impressive growth. I was under the impression that the Germans had the same obsession about inflation because of their hyperinflation experience, but that is just what I heard.
The tigers followed Japans example but not to the same extreme. But they didn't have loose monetary policies and at times they experience growth rates of fourteen percent.
Milton Friedman has always argued, among other things, that tight monetary policy is the key to strong growth. In a PBS special I saw, he used Hong Kong and Singapore as examples.
In any case I believe he would say that the choice between high growth and low inflation is a false choice. I think he would argue (and most monetarists) that tight monetary policy facilitates long term high growth where loose monetary policy discourages long term growth.
I agree that tight monetary policy helps with long term growth, but I believe that there are much more important factors when it comes to encouraging growth.
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10-24-2006, 03:19 PM
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#3695
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WacKtose Intolerant
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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I see that, with Bilmore back and Slave awake, Penske has decided he can go back to being a complete lunatic.
Familiar, though not really comforting.
S_A_M
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do you ever watch MSNBC?
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Since I'm a righteous man, I don't eat ham;
I wish more people was alive like me
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10-24-2006, 03:19 PM
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#3696
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I see that, with Bilmore back and Slave awake, Penske has decided he can go back to being a complete lunatic.
Familiar, though not really comforting.
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Every so often he gets lucky with one of his slip-and-fall cases and then he goes on a boxed-wine bender. He'll sober up.
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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10-24-2006, 03:20 PM
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Too Good For Post Numbers
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
CNN was playing the same vids for weeks on end. I suppose that wasn't long enough, though -- right? I mean, people have forgotten that we were attacked on 9/11, right?
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After reading a number of subsequent posts, I'm starting to think that I've conflated this with the "MidEast 9/11 celebrations" topic. They did disappear immediately, but I'm thinking now that you're correct about the tower-plane vids staying on for some time. I'd have to go back and start googling to figure out which is correct at this point, and . . . well, no.
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10-24-2006, 03:21 PM
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For what it's worth
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Inquiring minds want to know.....
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Originally posted by bilmore
Insinuate? Suggest? No. I'm stating, explicitly, that some Dems, for the sake of retaking national power, have performed traitorous acts and have supported and encouraged and rewarded terrorism, and, to some extent, are directly responsible for some aspects of the situation in Iraq, Iran, NorKor, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, . . .
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As Ty said this is quite a strong statement. I am not trying to ask an "LSAT" question, but could you elabortate a little bit, and tell me what you think Bush was supposed to do about this (in your prior post you implied Bush should have done more about this)?
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10-24-2006, 03:21 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Suppose -- hypothetically -- that the country was at war in, say, Vietnam, under an incompetent Democratic president. We -- our country, our troops -- would be better off if the press was reporting on the president's incompetence, rather than covering it up for fear of giving aid and comfort to the Vietnamese.
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the US troops killed by the snipers AP photographers were shooting- you think those troops are incompetant? and the financial trail stuff, if that had been ineffectual no one would have cared if the Times disclosed it, the problem is it seems quite effective, or it was 
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10-24-2006, 03:24 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I don't think reporters should ever be cheerleaders. To the extent that it happens, I would say it has much more to do with consumers preferring cheerleading over more responsible reporting.
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If it's a consumer preference, doesn't it promote growth?
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10-24-2006, 03:24 PM
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#3701
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Why, Bilmore, Why?
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Now that you've said it, I still have no idea what you're talking about. Except that expressing disagreement with the President about a matter of foreign policy is treason.*
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Ritalin, Ty. It's worked for millions before, and it can help you, too. Lordy, how you skitter about.
Your question to me was, "(g) Democrats responsible for some aspects of the situation in North Korea." That's what I answered.
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10-24-2006, 03:25 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
the US troops killed by the snipers AP photographers were shooting- you think those troops are incompetant? and the financial trail stuff, if that had been ineffectual no one would have cared if the Times disclosed it, the problem is it seems quite effective, or it was
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I take back what I said earlier today on the FB about your incisive way with hypotheticals.
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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10-24-2006, 03:25 PM
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#3703
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Classified
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Why, Bilmore, Why?
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Originally posted by bilmore
No, I'd probably speak of how Kim is a megalomaniac who is best fed and encouraged when Kerry, who is outraged that Bush tries to go it alone in the ME (a moronic assertion in its own right) is also, simultaneously, outraged that Bush WON'T go it alone in NorKor now. Naked partisan play that hurts our efforts to make the world safer, for the sake of the KosKidz votes.
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So, hypothetically, if I were elected to Congress, and I thought that the Administration should be negotiating one on one with North Korea and said so, or otherwise criticized the President's "NorKor" policy, I would be engaging in treason?
That is a truly astounding position, Bilmore. By that standard -- which you presumably apply to other important policy issues - you are absolutely right, the government is riddled with traitors and terrorist sympathizers.
I know you say you're a traditional, small-government conservative, but I had no idea you were actually a Federalist (or a monarchist). Might want to ship the Administration the text of the Alien & Sedition Acts while the GOP still controls Congress.
S_A_M
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10-24-2006, 03:26 PM
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#3704
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WacKtose Intolerant
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Every so often he gets lucky with one of his slip-and-fall cases and then he goes on a boxed-wine bender. He'll sober up.
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In an effourt to provoke a side bar from the typical politics of personal destruction that you libs so gleefully and saddeningly engage in to the detriment of America, I was in Target on Sunday and saw some boxed wine from CA and thought of Ty. In a sympathetically pitying sort of way. I vowed at the moment that if I am ever in San Francisco or Berkely or whatever haven of revolutionarry socialism down there that Ty resides in, as a way of bridging the gap, reaching out, iyw, I will treat him to a glass or two of real wine. Maybe some Pinot from the Willamette or Cab or Syrah from the Walla Walla area of Washington.
SAM, you are invited too!
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Since I'm a righteous man, I don't eat ham;
I wish more people was alive like me
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10-24-2006, 03:27 PM
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#3705
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Quote:
Originally posted by Sidd Finch
If it's a consumer preference, doesn't it promote growth?
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You're saying that if we tax it less, the problem will cure itself?
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