Posting Towards Gomorrah

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Spanky
I didn't find that all that funny. Why would someone go through all this trouble to make a fake advertisement that wasn't that funny?

OK. Now I get it. It was an Ad the Democrats chose not to run.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I am against state sanctioned or regulated marriage for the straights, the gays, the polyamorous et al.

A marital style partnership should fall under the right to contract. Anybody with capacity should be able to do it.

In the spirit of that belief I have oft stated that I will never get married again and make myself subject to the jackboot of the state, whether the state is administered by (i) American patriots; or (ii) the treasonous liberals and/or their comrades in the DNC or Islamofacist terrorist network.

I just watched a video of a stoning from Iran. Lovely people, really.

Re marriage being a contract issue, 22222222222222222222. The state has no business pushing a value agenda on people by making marriage advantageous. We have too many people the way it is. If anything, the state should be discouraging birth. In wat secotrs of the country this discouragement should be most strenuous I'll keep to myself.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
If anything, the state should be discouraging birth. In wat secotrs of the country this discouragement should be most strenuous I'll keep to myself.

I'm guessing you mean the illiderit secotrs.

[bilmore]

"Most Americans do not believe the Bush administration has gone too far in restricting civil liberties as part of the war on terror, a new CNN poll released Thursday suggests.

While 39 percent of the 1,013 poll respondents said the Bush administration has gone too far, 34 percent said they believe the administration has been about right on the restrictions, according to the Opinion Research Corp. survey. Another 25 percent said the administration has not gone far enough.

Asked whether Bush has more power than any other U.S. president, 65 percent of poll respondents said no. Thirty-three percent said yes. Of those who said yes, a quarter said that was bad for the country. "

So, 59% of Americans believe either that Bush has acted just about right concerning civil liberties, or that he has not acted tough enough, and 75% of the people who think Bush has expanded presidential powers think it's a good thing.

CNN has this in their "Broken Government" series. I think they need a new name. How about "when small groups of whackos convince themselves they speak for a country"?

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/...ush/index.html

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Headline of the Day:

Conservatives Cheer NJ Ruling on Gay Couples

Bilmore, looks like the change may not be so glacial after all.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

I just read that Michael J. Fox did a similar ad for Arlen Specter in 2004. Has anyone seen it? Was it pretty much the same?

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I just read that Michael J. Fox did a similar ad for Arlen Specter in 2004. Has anyone seen it? Was it pretty much the same?

I don't know. Perhaps someone could get on the internets and use the google to look it up.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I don't know. Perhaps someone could get on the internets and use the google to look it up.

I haven't seen it, but I'm sure all Bilmore's objections are well founded.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I love it when I agree with Bilmore. 'Tis a rare, strangelybeautiful thing.

2. This is a no brainer to me, but I do have a problem with courts telling the legislature to legislate (although I haven't had time to read the decision yet, so maybe that's just a media misreading).

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Here's a delightful development:

• In two dozen congressional districts, a political action committee supported by a white Indianapolis businessman, J. Patrick Rooney, is running ads saying Democrats want to abort black babies. A voice says, "If you make a little mistake with one of your hos, you'll want to dispose of that problem tout de suite, no questions asked."

WaPo

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
2. This is a no brainer to me, but I do have a problem with courts telling the legislature to legislate (although I haven't had time to read the decision yet, so maybe that's just a media misreading).

What if the court just says NJ has to give gay couples the same benefits, etc., it gives married couples?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

I don't think Bush is stupid, but for some reason he frequently sounds as if he's stoned:

• One of the stories - interesting stories I tell is about the fellow that came here. He got kidnapped and he was rescued pretty early by our Delta team. I said, what's it like to be kidnapped, man? It must have been weird - Baghdad, to be kidnapped.

USN&WR

[sgtclub]

http://gaycitynews.com/site/news.cfm...d=568864&rfi=6

[Hillary's stance on gay marriage]

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
What if the court just says NJ has to give gay couples the same benefits, etc., it gives married couples?

I don't know enough without reading the case, but in my mind the court should either strike down the law (if it was a ban) or deny the application of the law (if that what was at issue). The court can give guidance to the legislature as to what the Constitution requires, but it should not say what laws the legislature has to pass.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I don't know enough without reading the case, but in my mind the court should either strike down the law (if it was a ban) or deny the application of the law (if that what was at issue). The court can give guidance to the legislature as to what the Constitution requires, but it should not say what laws the legislature has to pass.

What if the law says, men and women can marry and if they do they get the following benefits: a, b and c. Another law says, same-sex couples can form civil unions and if they do they get the following benefits: a and b. A same-sex couple sues and says, under the NJ equivalent of the equal protection clause, we should get c too. In your view, should the court say that the legislature can't let people get married? Or can it say that same-sex couples in (previously permitted) civil unions get c.