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10-27-2006, 04:26 PM
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#4096
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 65,535
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"A carnival of ugly."
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
What is it?
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What, is this like a Monty Python routine?
(SEE St. Louis.)
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10-27-2006, 04:31 PM
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#4097
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,062
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"A carnival of ugly."
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Originally posted by bilmore
What, is this like a Monty Python routine?
(SEE St. Louis.)
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Are you defending the Silly Party or the Very Silly Party?
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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10-27-2006, 04:33 PM
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#4098
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pop goes the chupacabra
Posts: 18,532
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This race is over.............
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Have I become the new Hank? Am I on ignore?
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Quoting the Herald is old and busted. Linking to youtube is the new thing.
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10-27-2006, 04:35 PM
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#4099
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,062
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John Kerry and Democrats responsible for Korean love.
- Korean newspapers have reported that sales of condoms and reservations at 'love hotels' have soared following the October 9 blast.
In the week following the explosion, the average daily sales of condoms rose by 20 per cent compared with September's daily average.
Financial Times
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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10-27-2006, 04:44 PM
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#4100
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 65,535
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"A carnival of ugly."
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Are you defending the Silly Party or the Very Silly Party?
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Really, it's like a horserace in which the lead keeps changing. Hard to tell.
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10-27-2006, 05:02 PM
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#4101
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For what it's worth
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: With Thumper
Posts: 6,793
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Quote:
Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
We'll certainly keep learning about the impact through then, but if the philosophy works, we should be seeing real results in the 5-10 year period after implementation.
While I'd be happy to concede that the program is not yet fully implemented, responsibility for that lies at Bush's and Hasert's doorstep.
The telling problem is that your guys in DC just haven't stuck by and prioritized this.
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Some planes hit a building and it has been a minor distraction. But the law has not been revoked. We still have the testing in place. And testing is exactly what we need.
Like Bilmore said, all the creative teaching in the world isn't going to do us any good if you can't read and right, and add and subtract. It is very easy to set up test for stuff where "preparing for the test" means actually learning how to read and right and add and subtract.
What that stupid Der Spiegal article didn't point out is that the US dominates the world in the creative department. Our system of higher education also dominates the world. Where the US is failing is with the lower classes with even basic stuff so they can hold any job.
The key to fixing the problem - well maybe we should look how successful developed (and some not so developed nations) nations teach all their children the basics. How do they do it? They test them into the ground. In Japan, Hong Kong and Singaore elementary school is just one big test. You are either taking a test or preparing for one. Not that complicated.
Only the teachers unions could complain about a solution that makes perfect sense and has had proven results.
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10-27-2006, 05:14 PM
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#4102
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 65,535
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Quote:
Originally posted by Spanky
Like Bilmore said, all the creative teaching in the world isn't going to do us any good if you can't read and right . . .
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Please, please, please, tell me this was intentional.
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10-27-2006, 05:15 PM
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#4103
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,062
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Quote:
Originally posted by bilmore
Please, please, please, tell me this was intentional.
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Spanky, bilmore. Bilmore, Spanky.
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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10-27-2006, 05:17 PM
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#4104
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For what it's worth
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: With Thumper
Posts: 6,793
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Are you a liberal?
Do you believe the following?
1. Standards for admissions to universities, fire departments, etc. should be lowered for people of color.
2. Bilingual education for children of immigrants, rather than immersion in English, is good for them and for America.
3. School districts should not be able to fire incompetent teachers or principles
4. Students should not be tested because it hurts their self esteem
5. Students should not be held back because it hurts their self esteem
6. People who are rich generally have taken their wealth from somebody else rather than created it.
7. Child molesters and murderers, even if they are guilty, should be let free if their rights have been violated.
8. Peace with tyranny is preferable to war without tyranny.
9. Murderers should never be put to death.
10. During the Cold War, America should have adopted a nuclear arms freeze.
11. Colleges should not allow ROTC programs.
12. It was wrong to wage war against Saddam Hussein in the Gulf War.
13. Iraq was better off being ruled by Saddam Hussein rather than the Coalition forces.
14. Poor parents should not be allowed to have vouchers to send their children to private schools.
15. It is good that trial lawyers and teachers unions are the two biggest contributors to the Democratic Party.
16. The present high tax rates are good.
17. Speech codes on college campuses are good and American values.
18. The United Nations is a moral force for good in the world, and therefore America should be subservient to it and such international institutions as as the world court.
19. Other countries (including France, Russia and China) should have a say whether the US can act in furtherance of its National Security.
20. It is good that colleges have dropped hundreds of men's sports teams in order to meet gender-based quotas.
21. Racial profiling for terrorists is wrong -- a white American grandmother should as likely be searched as a Saudi young male.
22. Racism and poverty -- not a lack of fathers and a crisis of values -- are the primary causes of violent crime in the inner city.
23. No culture is morally superior to any other.
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10-27-2006, 05:18 PM
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#4105
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 65,535
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Spanky, bilmore. Bilmore, Spanky.
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My fault. I have been accused, probably accurately, of being anal.
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10-27-2006, 05:20 PM
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#4106
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For what it's worth
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: With Thumper
Posts: 6,793
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Quote:
Originally posted by bilmore
Please, please, please, tell me this was intentional.
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If we are both employers the sentence makes perfect sense.
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10-27-2006, 05:24 PM
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#4107
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 12,057
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Are you a liberal?
Quote:
Originally posted by Spanky
Do you believe the following?
1. Standards for admissions to universities, fire departments, etc. should be lowered for people of color.
2. Bilingual education for children of immigrants, rather than immersion in English, is good for them and for America.
3. School districts should not be able to fire incompetent teachers or principles
4. Students should not be tested because it hurts their self esteem
5. Students should not be held back because it hurts their self esteem
6. People who are rich generally have taken their wealth from somebody else rather than created it.
7. Child molesters and murderers, even if they are guilty, should be let free if their rights have been violated.
8. Peace with tyranny is preferable to war without tyranny.
9. Murderers should never be put to death.
10. During the Cold War, America should have adopted a nuclear arms freeze.
11. Colleges should not allow ROTC programs.
12. It was wrong to wage war against Saddam Hussein in the Gulf War.
13. Iraq was better off being ruled by Saddam Hussein rather than the Coalition forces.
14. Poor parents should not be allowed to have vouchers to send their children to private schools.
15. It is good that trial lawyers and teachers unions are the two biggest contributors to the Democratic Party.
16. The present high tax rates are good.
17. Speech codes on college campuses are good and American values.
18. The United Nations is a moral force for good in the world, and therefore America should be subservient to it and such international institutions as as the world court.
19. Other countries (including France, Russia and China) should have a say whether the US can act in furtherance of its National Security.
20. It is good that colleges have dropped hundreds of men's sports teams in order to meet gender-based quotas.
21. Racial profiling for terrorists is wrong -- a white American grandmother should as likely be searched as a Saudi young male.
22. Racism and poverty -- not a lack of fathers and a crisis of values -- are the primary causes of violent crime in the inner city.
23. No culture is morally superior to any other.
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I think club posted this a while back. There were some witty rejoinders, if I recall correctly.
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"More than two decades later, it is hard to imagine the Revolutionary War coming out any other way."
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10-27-2006, 05:26 PM
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#4108
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Flyover land
Posts: 19,042
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Are you a liberal?
Quote:
Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I think club posted this a while back. There were some witty rejoinders, if I recall correctly.
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You mean it isn't a recurring spanky annoyance, it's a recurring club annoyance, now being furthered by spanky?
Yeesh. Scary.
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10-27-2006, 05:40 PM
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#4109
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For what it's worth
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: With Thumper
Posts: 6,793
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Quote:
Originally posted by bilmore
My fault. I have been accused, probably accurately, of being anal.
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If you proofread your posts you are not allocating your resources well. Actually, if you post here at all you are not allocating your time well, but at least if you don't proofread your posts you are mitigating the damage.
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10-27-2006, 05:43 PM
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#4110
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 12,057
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Quote:
Originally posted by Spanky
If you proofread your posts you are not allocating your resources well. Actually, if you post here at all you are not allocating your time well, but at least if you don't proofread your posts you are mitigating the damage.
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"You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.''—Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001
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