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11-01-2006, 04:20 PM
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#4501
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Deny/Distort/Distract
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Originally posted by Spanky
I can make the same claim. Two uncles that went through the academies. In my extended family the general rule is, if you were in the military you are a Republican and support the administration and if you were not, you are a Democrat. I and a few others are exceptions.
I would guess that most members of the military are generally conservative. Of course a few stats on party registration in the military would end this argument.
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While most of the people I work closely with are women and are non-military, I work (overall) with a LOT of ex-military people and even more pro-strong-defense people, and a surprising number of them seem to be, if not Ds, not happy with Bush. I don't tend to talk politics with people who I don't know very well, though, so I have not like taken a poll or anything. And I generally interact more with the white-collar people than the blue-collar people.
I am not sure but that the rules on pro-defense = Rs and pro-peace = Ds* that were formed from the 1950s forward aren't changing.
Hey, back when the US was considering whether to enter WWI and/or WWII, where did the parties fall?
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11-01-2006, 04:22 PM
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#4502
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Deny/Distort/Distract
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I posted something suggesting that if you read the full transcript of Kerry's remarks, it's clear that he was talking about the President, not about anyone in the Army. And, in ostensible response, both you and Hank linked to a clip of the ten seconds of Kerry's remarks that got him in trouble. The subtext apparently being that ten seconds of pictures and sounds combined are much more compelling than a bunch of words.
Congratulations on your tie in this little race to the bottom.
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Cut the B.S. and show us the full transcipt instead of someone talking about the "full transcript". I have not seen or heard this "full transcript" and I am not going to trust anyones summary of it.
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11-01-2006, 04:23 PM
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#4503
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Deny/Distort/Distract
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Originally posted by Spanky
No. You should vote GOP because the growth rate is lot better now than it was six years ago.
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Real GDP in the fourth quarter of 2000 was up 2.1%. For the year, real GDP increased in 2000 by 3.7% over the preceding year.
Real GDP for Q3 of 2006 -- i.e., "now," -- was up 1.6% compared to the preceding quarter.
Thanks for playing.
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11-01-2006, 04:27 PM
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#4504
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Deny/Distort/Distract
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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Of the six currently living vets (including currently serving personnel) in my family, there is one staunch republican, three staunch Dems, and two swing voters, both of whom are voting Dem this year.
There are a lot of folks in the military who may vote R because the Rs have in the past been viewed as stronger on defense, but they'll support Democratic positions on civil rights, economic opportunity, and social issues. Colin Powell is a good example of someone coming out of the military who isn't going to agree with the likes of Cheney and Rumsfeld on a lot of issues.
(edited because I forgot one Dem)
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I can tell you that for someone who is active in the Republican party, Veterans is one of our strongest voting blocks. We always target them, and in this race the RNC has assumed that most of them are with the President. They are saturating Vets with mailers encouraging them to vote, and I can't believe they would do this unless they were sure most were going to vote R in this election.
You can accuse Karl Rove of many things, but not of being stupid and you can be assured he has done his homework. He is doing everything in his power to get the vets to vote and Kerry just helped him immensely.
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11-01-2006, 04:28 PM
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#4505
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Deny/Distort/Distract
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
ummm, maybe you could post the transcript? oh you haven't seen it? But you are convinced by what someone said it implies? PS don't bring up some contrived script.
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Originally posted by Spanky Cut the B.S. and show us the full transcipt instead of someone talking about the "full transcript". I have not seen or heard this "full transcript" and I am not going to trust anyones summary of it.
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So many conservative epistemologists, so little time. Dick Armey's word on this is enough for me.
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Last edited by Tyrone Slothrop; 11-01-2006 at 04:30 PM..
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11-01-2006, 04:29 PM
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#4506
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Deny/Distort/Distract
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Hey, back when the US was considering whether to enter WWI and/or WWII, where did the parties fall?
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Both sides fell over eachother trying to convince the public they would keep the peace. However, the Republicans were probably more islolationist than the Dems. Things changed drastically in the cold war.
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11-01-2006, 04:32 PM
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#4507
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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Who could be against 65%?
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Originally posted by baltassoc
Another thing: how much are you getting paid
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it's pro bono. spankster does it for the access to hot 16 year old tail.
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I will not suffer a fool- but I do seem to read a lot of their posts
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11-01-2006, 04:33 PM
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Check this out...
Nearly half of Americans uncertain God exists: poll
Nearly half of Americans are not sure God exists, according to a poll that also found divisions among the public on whether God is male or female or whether God has a human form and has control over events.
The survey conducted by Harris Poll found that 42 percent of US adults are not "absolutely certain" there is a God compared to 34 percent who felt that way when asked the same question three years ago.
Among the various religious groups, 76 percent of Protestants, 64 percent of Catholics and 30 percent of Jews said they are "absolutely certain" there is a God while 93 percent of Christians who describe themselves as "Born Again" feel certain God exists.
When questioned on whether God is male or female, 36 percent of respondents said they think God is male, 37 percent said neither male nor female and 10 percent said "both male and female."
Only one percent think of God as a female, according to the poll.
Asked whether God has a human form, 41 percent said they think of God as "a spirit or power than can take on human form but is not inherently human."
As to whether God controls events on Earth, 29 percent believe that to be the case while 44 percent said God "observes but does not control what happens on Earth".
The survey was conducted online between October 4 and 10 among 2,010 US adults.
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11-01-2006, 04:38 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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recruit demographics
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Nat...y/cda06-09.cfm
- 99.9 percent of the enlisted force have at least a high school education; 73.3 percent have some semester hours toward a college degree; 16.2 percent have an associate’s degree or equivalent semester hours; 4.7 percent have a bachelor’s degree; 0.7 percent have a master’s degree and .01 percent have a professional or doctorate degree.
AND
the middle classes over-represented.
sorry Sidd. You lose another.
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I will not suffer a fool- but I do seem to read a lot of their posts
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11-01-2006, 04:38 PM
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#4510
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For what it's worth
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Who could be against 65%?
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Originally posted by baltassoc
Another thing: how much are you getting paid to teach at the local juvenile hall? Do you think if they paid you more you would work harder? Would you be a better teacher? Would they be able to hire a better teacher?
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I volunteer. I am sure if they paid, someone would do my job without any job security.
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Originally posted by baltassoc
You are right; I can't really assess your ability to teach based on an online chatboard. I gauge based on my own prejudices. So prove me wrong: post your students' scores.
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You are going to love this: I am not allowed to test them. In order to not break the rule, I give them tests but they don't turn them in. We just discuss the tests after they take them.
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11-01-2006, 04:39 PM
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#4511
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Random Syndicate (admin)
Join Date: Mar 2003
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recruit demographics
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"In the olden days before the internet, you'd take this sort of person for a ride out into the woods and shoot them, as Darwin intended, before he could spawn."--Will the Vampire People Leave the Lobby? pg 79
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11-01-2006, 04:41 PM
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#4512
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Registered User
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Check this out...
Quote:
Originally posted by Spanky
Nearly half of Americans uncertain God exists: poll
Nearly half of Americans are not sure God exists, according to a poll that also found divisions among the public on whether God is male or female or whether God has a human form and has control over events.
The survey conducted by Harris Poll found that 42 percent of US adults are not "absolutely certain" there is a God compared to 34 percent who felt that way when asked the same question three years ago.
Among the various religious groups, 76 percent of Protestants, 64 percent of Catholics and 30 percent of Jews said they are "absolutely certain" there is a God while 93 percent of Christians who describe themselves as "Born Again" feel certain God exists.
When questioned on whether God is male or female, 36 percent of respondents said they think God is male, 37 percent said neither male nor female and 10 percent said "both male and female."
Only one percent think of God as a female, according to the poll.
Asked whether God has a human form, 41 percent said they think of God as "a spirit or power than can take on human form but is not inherently human."
As to whether God controls events on Earth, 29 percent believe that to be the case while 44 percent said God "observes but does not control what happens on Earth".
The survey was conducted online between October 4 and 10 among 2,010 US adults.
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God exists.
God is both male and female and neither male or female. When you believe in the trinity you get to have it all ways.
God is both spirit or form and manifest in human form.
Controls is a funny word, but, yeh, why not.
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11-01-2006, 04:44 PM
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#4513
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For what it's worth
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Deny/Distort/Distract
Quote:
Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
So many conservative epistemologists, so little time. Dick Armey's word on this is enough for me.
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Funny how you can't find it anywhere on the internet. You would think if it was exculpatory it would be posted everywhere.
Who knows what Dick Armey really said and if he was privy to the right transcript.
So far all we have seen is the one that is really damning. It does not seem to reference the President at all. I saw one clip where Kerry explained he left off the end of the joke, but that is a far cry from him actually saying it and it being cut.
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11-01-2006, 04:45 PM
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#4514
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Check this out...
Quote:
Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
God exists.
God is both male and female and neither male or female. When you believe in the trinity you get to have it all ways.
God is both spirit or form and manifest in human form.
Controls is a funny word, but, yeh, why not.
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Cite?
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11-01-2006, 04:48 PM
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#4515
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Random Syndicate (admin)
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Who could be against 65%?
Quote:
Originally posted by Spanky
I volunteer. I am sure if they paid, someone would do my job without any job security.
You are going to love this: I am not allowed to test them. In order to not break the rule, I give them tests but they don't turn them in. We just discuss the tests after they take them.
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No worries. He was just trying to goad you into a FERPA violation. Way to avoid the trap! 
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